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Medical examiner suspected homicide in deaths of pastor's wives

January 05, 2014 / 02:36

This episode discusses the forensic analysis of Juel Shermer and Betty Shermer's deaths, focusing on the injuries and potential causes of homicide.

Forensic expert Mike Manuso shares his findings on Juel Shermer's body, noting two linear tears on the right side of her head. He concludes that she was beaten with a cylindrical object, ruling out the possibility of her falling down stairs.

Manuso also discusses Betty Shermer's death, indicating that she suffered a traumatic brain injury and suggesting similar circumstances to Juel's case. He emphasizes the need for further investigation, including CAT scans, to understand the injuries better.

The episode highlights the similarities between the two cases, with Manuso drawing parallels in the injuries sustained by both victims.

Overall, the discussion centers on the forensic evidence and the implications of the findings in determining the cause of death for both Juel and Betty Shermer.

TLDR

Forensic expert Mike Manuso analyzes the homicides of Juel and Betty Shermer, revealing similarities in their injuries and potential causes of death.

Episode

2:36
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was there any doubt in your mind as you worked over juel shermer's body in this room that she was murdered that category
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was always in my mind homicide was always in my mind and what pattern did you notice on Mrs Shermer that day I
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noticed two linear tears to the right side of the head do you get fractures in the pattern that you saw on juwel shmer
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from falling downstairs ultimately we concluded no and the reason why we concluded no is we did an extensive
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amount of testing the experts pushed the dummies down the stairs what we did was we had Crash Test
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Dummies we brought them out beforehand we put chalk all over the head and the chalk is there to help us analyze where
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the head strikes occur how did the injuries the injuries that the crash test dummy suffer differ from the
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injuries that you found on juel shermer's body the strikes to the Head were different areas than o ju shmer
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there's no evidence of a neck injury juul shmer did not have any Orthopedic injuries to her ribs or pelvis
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ultimately we conclude she didn't fall down a flight of steps what do you think happened to her well I believe that she
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was beaten and my conclusion she was beaten with an object can you say what kind of object I believe it was a long
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cylindrical object such as a pipe or maybe um crowbar something along those lines
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let's talk about Betty sure how did you hear that Betty Shermer had died well I was contacted by the district attorney
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Monroe County Mike manuso so he told you about the circumstances of Betty shermer's death yes he did and what was
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your thought obviously my most obvious thought was she had died of traumatic brain injury and it was a
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homicide and how could we ultimately figure this out well we did have some photographs but we did not have an
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autopsy on unfortunately the body had been crated what we did was we got the CAT scans that she had had done on her
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head at the two hospitals well this is an actual three-dimensional reconstruction of the CAT scan of of
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Bendy Sherman the right side of her head and these tears are what we refer to as
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linear tears which means they look like lines and you'll notice that they're on the right side of the head just like
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Joel Shermer how do you think these injuries were inflicted I believe that it was due to an object and the object I
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believe was a lone IAL object this sounds like a replay this sounds like a replay from juwel shmer deja vu all over
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again

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Episode Highlights

  • Injury Analysis
    The injuries on Juel Shermer's body were distinct from those of crash test dummies.
    “The strikes to the head were different areas than Juel Shermer.”
    @ 00m 56s
    January 05, 2014
  • Murder Investigation Insights
    Experts concluded Juel Shermer was beaten, not a victim of an accident.
    “Ultimately we conclude she didn't fall down a flight of steps.”
    @ 01m 09s
    January 05, 2014

Episode Quotes

  • I believe that she was beaten.
    Medical examiner suspected homicide in deaths of pastor's wives
  • This sounds like a replay.
    Medical examiner suspected homicide in deaths of pastor's wives

Key Moments

  • Injury Comparison00:56
  • Murder Conclusion01:14
  • Replay of Evidence02:33

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