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The Gun & the Blood | "Married to Death" | "48 Hours" Podcast

June 28, 2023 / 19:55

This episode covers the trial of Raynella Leith for the murder of her second husband, David Lee, in Knox County, Tennessee. Key topics include jury selection, circumstantial evidence, and the prosecution's narrative.

The episode begins with the challenges faced by the defense in selecting an impartial jury, as many potential jurors were familiar with Raynella's case. Defense attorneys Josh Hedrick and Rebecca Legrand express concerns about finding jurors who had not heard about Raynella, who has been labeled a "black widow" in media coverage.

Prosecutor Stephen Crump presents a circumstantial case against Raynella, suggesting she shot David in bed and attempted to stage it as a suicide. Crump argues that the evidence, including the trajectory of the bullets and blood spatter, supports the claim of murder.

Expert witnesses, including firearms expert Don Carmen, testify about the mechanics of the gun used and the implications of the blood spatter evidence. The defense counters this narrative, suggesting that the evidence could also support a suicide theory.

The episode concludes with a discussion of the differing interpretations of the evidence presented in court, leaving the question of Raynella's guilt open for the jury to decide.

TLDR

Raynella Leith's trial for her husband's murder features circumstantial evidence and conflicting expert testimonies about the shooting incident.

Episode

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General you may proceed with your opening remarks thank you [Music] I don't know that I know that I can tell
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you why I don't know but I'm not required to prove why she did it just that she did I
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say it's a very old simple Farm uh however very effective this is a tough case this is a purely
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circumstantial case isn't it absolutely it is I'm Erin Moriarty 48 hours and this is part three of married to
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death one of the strangest cases I've ever covered with a truly unexpected and shocking ending
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now let's return to the Knox County Tennessee courtroom where the trial of raynella Leith the murder of her second
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husband David is underway it's May 2017.4 for Knox County Tennessee division one is Alpha percentage of
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German senior judge Paul Summers provided good morning that senior judge Paul Summers he's
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handling the third murder trial of reynella Lee third trial for reynella lathe and you
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have to pick a jury how worried are you when I spoke with brainella's defense attorneys Josh Hedrick and Rebecca
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Legrand they were worried they wouldn't be able to find enough people who hadn't already heard about
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raynella I was I was very concerned Rebecca was more concerned I was I was very concerned there is no way to put
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out of your mind what you've read when you've read 10 years of this coverage of calling renella a black widow you can't
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put that out of your mind and that was everywhere so yeah I was very worried that we were going to be starting from
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so far back from so far from the presumption of innocence that you should have that it was going to be this an
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incredibly uphill battle they tried to have the case moved out of Knoxville and they asked for a change of venue but
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judge Summers was having none of it and this was a major issue going into this trial here's my producer Josh Gainer
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could they find a group of men and women to put on this jury who had never heard
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about a woman who's been on front pages of newspapers for decades and they tried
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to have it moved but what what was interesting to me is yes when we first started on this trial
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we thought it's going to be very hard to find jurors who hadn't heard about reynella Leith over the last 14 years as
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it turns out Knoxville is that college town and it's a town where people move in and move out and it turns out that
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they had no trouble finding jurors who had never heard of reynella leave so instead of waiting for days to try to
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choose jurors and putting off the trial day and a half and we were off and running in this trial
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16 that your lord are present and accountable 16 jurors are chosen and will sit for
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the entire trial but only 12 of them will actually decide reynella Lee's fate four will be alternates
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but they're not notified until right before deliberation there are 12 Men Four Women all white
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except for one Hispanic man at this point I always wonder what's the defense thinking are they concerned that
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women will be harsher judges is that why there are more men the 16 are a variety of Ages and they
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all come from different backgrounds there's a coffee roaster with a family history of dementia a Walmart pharmacist
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a farmer and a grocery store worker as jurors you are the ones that will decide the case
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this is a complicated case and it's time to get into the nitty-gritty of what both sides think happened to David Lee
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trial begins with the state's case General you might proceed with your opening remarks thank you that's Stephen
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Crump sometimes you'll hear the judge call him General he's not in the military but in
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Tennessee the D.A is called a district attorney general here's Josh again he's an elected
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official and somewhat newly uh to his position he didn't have to take this case on
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himself he could have allowed one of his deputies to do it so he took it on himself which is it was an interesting
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point coming in is he put himself out there a little bit as well but clearly thought strongly that he had had a good
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case if you remember raynella's first husband Ed Dawson was also a D.A in Knox County
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and he's still well known around the courthouses here so the current D.A removed herself from
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the case even Crump on the other hand he's from a different County he's entirely fresh and
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new to this case this is a tough case this is a purely circumstantial case isn't it absolutely it is and you don't
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have like an eyewitness no you don't have any kind of direct evidence that says raynella Leith killed David Lee that's
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right Trump told me what he thinks happened with raynell and David in that bedroom the morning of March 13
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2003. I think she walked up to the side of the bed intended to make it a one shot is going to be a suicide it was
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going to look like a suicide and she missed and then it changed the dynamic of everything that came after that
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she ended his life with that second shot and then in an attempt to cover up and make the scene out to be what it needed
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to look like she fired that third shot to get gunshot residue on him that's what I think
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says the way David Leith was found just didn't add up for investigators he was tucked in
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there was a pillow between his legs he was naked you heard David Lee about David Lee he
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was a proud man he liked to look good he liked to he liked to show himself you really think that's the way that he
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would want to leave naked with a pill between his legs [Music] Josh says that nearly everyone we spoke
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with mentioned David Lee's near obsession with his physical appearance and the way he's seen in town this is uh
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outside Knoxville Tennessee by all accounts he was a very Macho masculine type of guy in in somewhat of a macho
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masculine sort of environment he was very into cars he worked with his hands on the farm he went to tanning salons he
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got plastic surgery for his face his pants were always perfectly tailored everybody says everything on him was
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perfectly manicured at all time and he was so self-conscious of about the way that he looked the way the Cindy says is
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that he always wore his sunglasses even during pictures as we discussed in a previous episode The prosecution doesn't
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have to give the jury a motive for murder but Crump knows that the jurors will be
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thinking about it we've talked about the Angles and we come down to why I told you that I don't
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know that I could tell you why she did here I don't know but I'm not a part of a group why she did it just that she did
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despite not having a motive it was still plain to Josh and me that the prosecution was presenting a certain
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narrative about reynella what the prosecution wants the jury to believe is that not only did raynella kill her
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husband David Leith but it had been a in-process planned going on for weeks months a real cold-blooded calculating
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killer someone who is able to execute her husband in bed go to see her mother-in-law at the hospital talk to
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her stepdaughter go see her daughter at school and have all of those people except for Cindy of course say there was
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nothing out of the ordinary most trials are whodunits who committed the murder but in this case Krampus yet even
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established that David Leith was murdered let alone that raynella leave was the one who killed him
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to prove his case crumb is relying on two key pieces of evidence one is the gun the other is the blood spatter found on
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the headboard of David's bed those three shots were fired at remarkably different
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angles if you remember there were three shots fired here's Steve Crump during opening
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statements one striking the headboard going into the wall and exploding chips of wood into the
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back of the hair of David Lee's head you'll hear another bullet entered his forehead
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you're a third bullet entered the bed at the angle you see there downward and was recovered from the
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floor Crump believes those bullets tell the story we'll explain how in a second but let's start with the gun itself they
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found a handgun 38 caliber Colt police special positive is the name of the weapon that positive
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the six shot revolver and it's important and you will see why we missed the conclusion of my opening it's
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important that this was a revolver and you will hear that after the brain stem was severed he was no longer capable
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of moving firing that gun a third round was fired and we know that because you will hear that the third
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round was the one that was different Crump says David Leith was incapacitated and couldn't have fired the gun a third
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time he relies on Expert Witnesses like Don Carmen call your next witness god of the state
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calls Don Carmen Carmen is a Firearms expert and he's a former agent with the Tennessee Bureau
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of Investigation he led the team that analyzed the gun back in 2003. for 30 years I was a forensic scientist with
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the Tennessee Bureau Investigation Carmen took the revolver down in front of the jury box to show jurors how it
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works I say it's a very old simple Farm uh however very effective it's a revolver with a cylinder that holds the
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bullets in individual Chambers in this case six think of those guns in the old western movies where you can spin that
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round section that holds the bullets and then click it back into place that's the
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cylinder a few things happen when this particular gun is fired first each bullet casing
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stays in the cylinder in the exact same spot it started second when the triggers pulled a small
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circular indentation called a hammer strike is left on the empty casing it looks like a small dimple like if you
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were to poke the tip of a pencil into a piece of clay [Music] and third every time the gun fires that
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cylinder rotates now if you notice the cylinder this particular cylinder moves clockwise
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to line up the next bullet in this case we know three shots were fired investigators say they can tell which
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was fired first and they say they took a photo of that open cylinder as they found it
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uh the first cartridge fired would be this one so that you can see it in your mind
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think of the gun cylinder like a clock the first spec cartridge is at four o'clock the second would be this one the
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second spec cartridge is at two o'clock and the third would be this one and the third is straight up at noon or
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12 o'clock investigators say they got lucky because the gum was loaded with two different kinds of ammunition same
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caliber different brands and colors two silver Remington bullets one gold Winchester
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first two fired cartridges at four and two o'clock are silver their fragments were found in the headboard and in
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David's head and the last fired round at 12 o'clock in the cylinder was the Lone gold
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Winchester shot through the mattress the prosecution says that that proves the last bullet was fired after David
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was already shot in the head this is a crucial piece of evidence for the state in court Stephen Crump asked the medical
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examiner Dr darinka malusanec to explain why it matters who datedly sprained stem was transected
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what happened to his body when you hear stories about somebody falling like a board somebody just basically becomes
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flaccid and totally paralyzed that's what happens was David Lee in any way capable of any sort of
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voluntary movement after that bull has transected his brain none whatsoever in other words the state says David Leith
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could not have physically fired that final shot there just simply is no other explanation a suicide simply does not
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explain all of that the only conceivable answer in our mind was that it was Amazon and then there's the blood
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spatter that's the trail of blood that Stephen Crump considers to be his most compelling evidence
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but where all this falls apart or anything except homicide is where the blood spatter is found
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[Music] when David Leith was shot in the head blood from that injury landed on the
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headboard and the wall behind it forensic experts use those stains to estimate that David's head was
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approximately a foot above the mattress when he was shot a foot above the only way that all of this works
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together is that if regularly the standing at the side of the bed and she misses with that first shot and we
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know that the first shot was the one that went into the headboard because David Lee's hair was found in the divot
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that was created by the bullet going into the headboard we know that his head was below that
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because there was wood particles in his hair and so the first shot happens the only thing that could have happened is
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that he raises up his hair goes through there and is trapped against the headboard and so it stays on the
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headboard the second shot occurs and he falls straight back down to where it was
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found [Music] words Crump believes that David's killer shot the headboard jolting David awake
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then shot again and hit David in the head causing him to fall back down isn't it possible that David was trying to
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shoot himself missed and then just tried again I mean no it's not the blood spatter that was on
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the headboard and on the wall behind the headboard does not provide a basis for that to
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happen that is in line with the laws of physics what is physics enough to convince
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jurors that a murder occurred because the defense insists that that very same evidence points to David Lee as the
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shooter that each and every one of these shots each and every one of these trajectories
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could have been accomplished by David Leith himself both sides have their own experts to
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back up their cases there's a difference between innocent and not guilty I have no idea if she's innocent I truly
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believe she's not guilty if we interpret not guilty as being no proof was offered
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that reynella Leith shot and murdered her husband so I have no idea as a human being whether she's innocent or not as a
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forensic pathologist at least on the evidence that I've been privy to there's no way on Earth I think she's guilty
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[Music] I'm Aaron Moriarty 48 hours and that's part three of married to death this podcast series Married to death is
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Episode Highlights

  • A Complicated Case
    The prosecution presents a circumstantial case against Raynella Leith, lacking direct evidence.
    “This is a purely circumstantial case, isn't it?”
    @ 00m 22s
    June 28, 2023
  • The Trial of Raynella Leith
    The courtroom drama unfolds as jurors are selected for Raynella Leith's murder trial.
    “Could they find a group of men and women to put on this jury?”
    @ 02m 19s
    June 28, 2023
  • The Evidence Against Raynella
    Key evidence includes gunshot residue and blood spatter that complicates the narrative.
    “The blood spatter is found on the headboard and the wall behind it.”
    @ 15m 29s
    June 28, 2023

Episode Quotes

  • This is a tough case, this is a purely circumstantial case, isn't it?
    The Gun & the Blood | "Married to Death" | "48 Hours" Podcast
  • The only conceivable answer in our mind was that it was murder.
    The Gun & the Blood | "Married to Death" | "48 Hours" Podcast

Key Moments

  • Opening Remarks00:03
  • Circumstantial Evidence00:22
  • Jury Selection03:09
  • Prosecution's Narrative08:10
  • Key Evidence09:09
  • Trial Conclusion18:24

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