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but the first time I ever saw the place it was walking down this driveway the FBI let me out of a tank
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back there at the gate and asked me if that 100 body armor I said no I'm not afraid of them
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and who are you gonna meet well it's gonna meet David Koresh what'd he say to you I said hello
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we shook hands and we talked for hours did you know he was wounded yes he showed me his wounds he was wounded in
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the left hand and he was also wounded in the left side what did he want and what
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advice did you give him on that first day well what he wanted was safety for himself and everybody else and then what
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it seemed to me was that they had a good defense of excessive force being used there were more than 70 ATF officers
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approaching with firearms and military helmets in your definition is that excessive force I would that certainly
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is it never should have happened that way when I walked up on that gravel and then
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started inside my feet started crunching not on gravel but on the expended shells
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bullet holes everywhere all the windows on the second floor were shot out that's
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where the women were what's the controversy about the front door of the Branch Davidian the door looked a lot
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like this one I saw that door i sat by that door for hours it was all incoming rounds I don't know what
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happened to the front door that front door would have told the tale do you believe that there has been a cover-up a
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waco gate as some people have described it I don't know but I'd you know I have questions where is that door it's gone
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what do you mean it's gone it's gone it's it's disappeared nobody knows where it is
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[Music] the FBI says the David Koresh broke at least three promises to surrender isn't
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that evidence that he had no intention of coming out that he wanted this to end in the end of days the all-consuming
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fire no I think David Koresh was in love with himself enough to not want to die I
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don't think he wanted to die now all think he wanted to kill his followers I just don't think that's true
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and David lead the flock out the front door and this is over well that's what should have done