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Extra: How Walter Kirn met a "Rockefeller"

October 18, 2013 / 04:45

This episode covers the eccentric behavior of Clark Rockefeller, a man who wanted to adopt a dog from a Montana Humane Society. Walter Kar, a writer, shares his experiences with Rockefeller, including a 2,000-mile journey to deliver the dog. The conversation highlights Rockefeller's bizarre claims, such as being a freelance Central Banker and having a dog that dines on gourmet meals.

Walter recounts his initial phone call with Rockefeller, describing him as the craziest eccentric he had ever met. Rockefeller's boastful nature and outlandish stories intrigued Walter, leading him to drive across the country to meet him. Walter reflects on the absurdity of the situation, noting that he spent significant money and time to deliver the dog.

During their dinner in New York, Rockefeller suggested they explore the basement of Rockefeller Center, claiming to have a master key. Walter was skeptical but did not question Rockefeller's claims, treating him as a stranger. The conversation reveals Walter's internal conflict about his perception of Rockefeller and the nature of their relationship.

Ultimately, Walter admits that he did not consider Rockefeller a true friend, despite their interactions over the years. The episode captures the oddities of human relationships and the strange connections formed through shared experiences.

TLDR

Walter Kar shares his bizarre experience with eccentric Clark Rockefeller while delivering a dog across the country.

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I'm living in Montana the local Humane Society gets a call and uh it's from a Clark Rockefeller of New York who wants
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to adopt a dog in the animal shelter that he's found out about over the internet and it's a crippled dog it's in
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a wheelchair and uh the shelter people come to me and say Walter you went to Princeton we've got this Rockefeller uh
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who wants to adopt an animal um maybe you could talk to him and I get on the phone with him and he reveals himself as
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the craziest eccentric I've ever met he tells me that he has another dog that has um three course meals every night
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and he faxes me a menu of the meals he tells me that uh his job is he's a freelance Central Banker he's like Allen
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Green span for tiny countries that can't afford their own Allen greenpan he runs
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the economy of Thailand off his personal computer he tells me now rather than putting you off that made him more
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believable well here's a strange thing I I did go to Princeton I'd been exposed to these aristocratic blue blood types
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all my life they had eccentricities they tended to be boastful and uh unbelievable in certain ways and he was
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no more unbelievable than most of them but worse I'm a writer and curiosity killed the cat and when I talked to him
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to make arrangements for this dog's delivery to New York I came up with the bright idea of driving it myself 2,000
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miles from Montana just so I could meet him because I thought hey I'm a novelist
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I've got to meet a character like this uh I don't I hardly know Walter Kar no I've met Walter Kar twice in my life
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right but you spent considerable time with Walter Kar the first time I met him uh we spent about 15 minutes at the
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airport and then the next day I took him out to dinner and I paid for that I had
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to buy a plane ticket I had to drive a truck halfway across the country stay in motels it probably cost me $2,000 to
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deliver that dog he gave me a check and at dinner and I refused to open it because I didn't want to lower the tone
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of dinner you know anything so crash but then later I opened the check it was $500 you know $500 500 bucks not even on
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his account the check was written on his wife's account did I ever say anything no gentlemen don't I mean he got me
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to uh suppress my own instincts in favor of his version of things and after a while you know I was totally
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in did you ever tell him who you really was he never he well he thought you were
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Clark he thought you were Clark Rockefeller did you ever tell him oh no I'm not really I don't I didn't really
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know him he's a perfect stranger I still don't really know Walter Kar very well at all he's a perfect stranger we talked
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in the phone occasionally a couple of times maybe over 15 years perhaps uh 10 times something like that we traded
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emails back and forth over over 15 years perhaps uh 20 30 emails he considered you a
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friend did you consider him a friend not really we went and had dinner at a private club high in a skyscraper in
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Midtown and you could see Rockefeller Center out the window all lit up and uh as we were finishing dinner Clark said
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why don't we go down and run around in the basement of the of of the place and I said the place yeah Rock Center I said
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how do we get into the basement he says oh I have the key I have the master key and uh he sort of reached in his pocket
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and pulled it out I said there's a master key to Rockefeller Center oh yes of course you know and I knew in the
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back of my mind that I think at that point the Japanese owned Rockefeller Center but whatever I mean I didn't
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question it why is a stranger it's a total stranger it's like someone who delivered a dog to me it's
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very nice of him but uh it's you know he's a total stranger but you with this total stranger you kind of put on this
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image of Clark Rockefeller telling him you had a key you could take him to a private tour through the Rockefeller
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Center you really played the Rockefeller card didn't you with him to what ends what do you think well I wonder do you
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did you enjoy the idea of pulling the wool over the eyes of a good writer I think it's just dinner conversation you
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run out of things to say you resort to something silly I don't know what do you mean well if dinner conversation kind of
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slows down if dinner conversation gets kind of boring you resort to something that uh that livens up the conversation

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Episode Highlights

  • Meeting Clark Rockefeller
    A writer drives 2,000 miles to deliver a dog and meet an eccentric character.
    “I thought hey I'm a novelist, I've got to meet a character like this.”
    @ 01m 33s
    October 18, 2013
  • Dinner at Rockefeller Center
    An intriguing dinner leads to claims of having a master key to Rockefeller Center.
    “There's a master key to Rockefeller Center? Oh yes, of course!”
    @ 03m 42s
    October 18, 2013

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  • There's a master key to Rockefeller Center? Oh yes, of course!
    Extra: How Walter Kirn met a "Rockefeller"

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