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foreign [Music] is a beautiful piece of nature in Southern California what's beautiful
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about a beach is also what's dangerous about it there's a very different vibe of what it feels like to be there in the
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middle of the day versus 10 at night there is a little feeling of you don't know exactly what's out there
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1978 barbaranante and Jamal decided to go on a camping trip to the beach at Torrey Pines stole my heart to MSR you
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know it's that feeling everyone gets you know when you when you find that person
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that fits they were really good together they loved each other they had so much fun
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together and you could see it Barbara she was outspoken very popular funny gym great personality he was the life of the
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party my sister was like that too Barbara and Jim set up their sleeping bags on the beach itself and it was
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sometime in the night after they had fallen asleep that they were attacked Jim alt had been beaten and was very
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severely injured I was knocked unconscious I couldn't protect her I couldn't defend myself my dad looked at
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me and said your sister has been murdered I didn't find out until years later how bad it really was I'm going to
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say the body was around this position here somewhere they found her lying here nude and she also had some
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some cut marks on one of her breasts who would want to kill her when and why six years later in 1984 another young
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woman Claire Huff who was 14 was found murdered on Torrey Pines nearly The Identical location I just said don't go
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down there alone I think about her just about every day she was my best friend you get to this crime scene look at the
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body and see what again there was a mutilation of the breast my first thought was hey this is very similar to
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the one that happened six years ago how much evidence was there how many memes not any at all really
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I just remember going crazy in my mind is there something I'm not remembering is there something I saw
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I want to put a face to this crime because it's been faceless for almost 37 years
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there really was no big break until 2012 when police finally got hits on the DNA
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evidence that they had from the crime scene San Diego Police have identified a former San Diego Police criminalist as
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one of two suspects in the 1984 murder of 14 year old Claire Huff who was a big surprise that of all people in the world
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you could find as the suspect that it would be somebody who had actually worked for the police department he had
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a nickname in the crime lab right you know what that was his nickname was kinky he liked strip clubs he liked
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taking pictures of women my husband didn't do it he didn't go after teenagers I knew they were wrong
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this has multiple suspects there are a variety of motives as a murder mystery this has everything you would want
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[Music] [Music] [Music] foreign for the last 37 years Jim alt wakes up terrified thinking that it's 1978.
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that he's just been brutally attacked on Torrey Pines beach when I become aware that I'm awake I do not open my eyes
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I put my hands on the bed and I feel for that sheet or I feel for sandova Beach you still do
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that yes sir I before my eyes are open I want to know where I'm at it wasn't always this way the beach used to be
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Jim's second home a safe place a fun place and you're a big Surfer absolutely there's not a feeling on earth like
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surfing it's just there's a big rush in inside your body Rick selga has felt that Rush he was one
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of Jim's good friends back then who is the better Surfer between the two probably he was
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do you remember what he was like back then he was a big strong funny happy guy he
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was probably the the guy that everybody looked up to and this is probably one reason why Jim was featured in a wetsuit
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ad in Surfer magazine we were rock stars all of us in there when that out when that magazine that issue came out we we
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autographed quite a few and he had a lot of girls that liked him but he didn't see anybody else but her
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Jim alt only had eyes for 15 year old Barbara Nantes they were the All-American couple Jim the surfer had
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been dating Barbara the cheerleader for nine months man just a beautiful girl brown hair brown eyes oh yeah I was in
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love with the men I saw her they were introduced by Barbara's sister Sue she was outspoken really stubborn and
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set in her ways we had lots of arguments and fights and disagreements as sisters
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do Barbara's parents Ralph and Judy Nantes knew they had their work cut out for them pretty early on so she wasn't
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just another pretty face no she wasn't she was tough as Nails she was a popular defiant beautiful
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pain in the ass wonderful daughter you know God gave her to me to keep me humble and
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it worked on the weekend of August 12 1978 Ralph and Judy Nantes left town to visit some
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friends a family friend was looking after Barbara and her three siblings before leaving Ralph Nantes took Jim alt
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aside what did you tell him take care of my girl okay and make sure that she's safe I told her father and mother you
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know that we would stay put and um again that that you know I've said it before it's the biggest mistake or the
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biggest lie I've ever told in my life almost as soon as Barbara's parents left she and Jim hopped into a station wagon
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with Rick selga and his girlfriend and they all drove off to the beach I remember as they pulled off they were
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just saying you guys better be careful you know and they're kind of like yeah haha my sister's like
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see ya the four friends eventually ended up at Torrey Pines beach parking lot was
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filled with people it was like a big party around 9 30 p.m the friends called it a night Rick and his girlfriend
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decided to sleep in the station wagon and Jim and Barbara went down to the beach for some privacy I zipped the
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sleeping bags together and we we crawl in them and uh and went to sleep she was in my arms that's the last thing I
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remember the next morning Jim woke up cold and alone and wet he was covered in blood I'm freezing I'm
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feeling for Barbara don't know where she is I don't know anything I can't see anything don't hear anything he was
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blinded and disoriented so Jim had to feel his way along a fence up the Sandy Hill to the parking lot where his
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friends were sleeping in the car Jim came up here and he he was down low like this
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and he wrapped on the window and what did he look like then his face was swollen blood all over his blonde
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hair you know and uh his head was probably about that big Jim had been savagely beaten with a rock
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and a log from a fire pit on the beach did he say anything to you he goes go find Barb so I ran down to the beach
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looking for her and she was there Barbara's nude lifeless body lay on the beach I was thinking about
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what do I do I think that I just yelled at some people to call the Police Homicide officers ate what started out
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as an evening with friends turned out to be a night of death Paul iberando was a
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sergeant for the San Diego Police Department he was one of the first investigators on the scene when we
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uncovered the body it was covered with sand she has some very severe looking wounds on her head it
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looked like she'd probably been struck with something perhaps the rocks that we found nearby Barbara's murder had been
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vicious there was sand in her mouth and the killer left a gruesome mark it appeared that somebody had taken a sharp
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instrument and cut around the areola of her breast and also around the nipple of
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the breast so she'd been sort of mutilated mutilated later on it was determined that she had been raped and
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sodomized soon after Barbara's parents were notified and I just started screaming no
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no no no I must have said it 50 times it was like somebody took a sledgehammer and hit me in the head because we didn't
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even know that the kids were down there we had no idea Jim alt had been rushed to the hospital
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he had suffered a traumatic brain injury and was in a coma for days when he awoke
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he had no memory of the attack I've got titanium in the cranium stainless steel I've got that that plate that runs right
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about there and this was a serious life-threatening yes attack yes sir I almost did not make it
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Jim was briefly investigated but ruled out as a suspect his injuries were too severe Paul iberando and other
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investigators Tracked Down other leads but police could not find the killer the bloody attack and murder haunted
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everyone for years they're just kids you know that stuff didn't happen but a few years later Claire Huff's body
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was found on Torrey Pines beach she was murdered identically to Barbara foreign in the years after Barbara nantes's
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murder her family struggled with the overwhelming loss and pain there was situations you know where I'd wake up in
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a cold sweat crying just the sadness at losing this child that you loved when you're the mom you just carry that I
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felt like I was a complete failure as a mother Barbara's parents were both sad and angry at their daughter for lying to
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them but Ralph Nantes was especially furious at Jim alt I didn't want to see him and
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I didn't want to talk to him that's exactly what I felt you didn't keep my little girl safe
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and I was very very upset it hurts I didn't bring their daughter home six years later Claire Huff's loved ones
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faced the same pain that originated in the same place she was like barbanantes a year younger just 14 smart and
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spirited and she loved the beach she just had a inner light a Joy about her it's hard to explain unless you've
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met her Kim jamer was Claire Hoff's best friend very gentle funny kind Claire's parents Sam and Penny Huff were
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and are immensely proud of her she was the class mediator kids who got into arguments would ask Claire to adjudicate
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a couple of times she got in trouble in school because the teacher had accused someone wrongly and Claire wouldn't put
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up with it she fought back Claire learned to love the ocean early on she grew up on the coast of Rhode
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Island and spent as much time as she could walking along the shore with Kim we grew up looking for treasures and
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bringing her mom pretty things home from the ocean sea glass and pretty shells Claire had also spent a lot of time on
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San Diego's beaches her grandparents lived just a few blocks away from Torrey Pines beach one of the first pictures of
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Claire was taken there she was still small enough to be carried this may be her first introduction to real ocean
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surf the Huffs had always considered it a safe place and in the summer of 1984 they sent Claire and her brother out to
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California for a visit with their grandparents Kim jamer went along too we could just be silly and nobody knew us
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and it didn't matter how goofy we died and it was just really fun the night before Kim was supposed to
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head home Claire convinced her to sneak out of her grandparents house and go to the beach after dark but once they got
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there and settled near their favorite spot by the bridge Kim almost immediately had a panic attack
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it was just an awful feeling I knew how freaked out I was how somebody could just walk right up
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and buy you without you even knowing they were there you asked Claire to make you a promise when you were back I asked
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what was the promise I just didn't want her sneaking out by herself again two days later after Kim went back to Rhode
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Island Claire broke that promise and on August 24 1984 Claire Huff's body was found by a Beachcomber near the bridge
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retired detective Paul iberando also worked on this case and was interviewed by our CBS local station back then we
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are evaluating all the evidence we recovered at the scene Claire had been found just a few hundred yards from
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where Barbara Nantes had been killed to me it was a lot of similarities there like barbaranantes Claire Huff also had
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been beaten strangled and sexually assaulted it was determined that the autopsy that this girl had a lot of and
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packed in her mouth and larynx area our other victim had sand in her mouth but perhaps most chilling like Barbara's
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Claire's breast had also been mutilated we either have a serial killer or a Repeat Performance by the person that
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probably did the first case it didn't take long to find a promising suspect as soon as they heard about their
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daughter's death Sam and Penny Huff went to Torrey Pine State beach before long they were approached by a man named
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Wallace wheeler he was the Beachcomber who had found Claire's body he said I'm Wally wheeler I'm a psychic
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with his handout I'm sorry so what did you make of Wally wheeler the psychic he was strange
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so then we called the police to tell him tell them that the police encouraged Claire's parents to keep communicating
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with wheeler thinking he might confess or at least give them some useful information wheeler wrote long and
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rambling letters to the Huffs one of them saying Claire was coming to him in visions
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that was why she let me see her smiling face and her eyes were radiant this is a guy who found a bloody
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mutilated body and he's talking about smiling face and radiant eyes the letters were odd very odd the police
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questioned wheeler but he never confessed to anything and the letters eventually stopped what was the last
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thing you heard about Wallace wheeler that he had killed himself threw himself off the top of a building
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13-story building and died investigators would later tell the Huffs that they had ruled wheeler out as a
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suspect but the Huffs were convinced for years that wheeler was their daughter's
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killer you thought he was involved somehow oh yeah yeah we assumed that wheeler that he had that that he had
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done it for all the Intrigue surrounding Wallace wheeler the loved ones of the first victim barbaranantes had never
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even heard of him at the time in fact the families did not even know about each other
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but around 2008 the San Diego Police Department posted the cases on its website and for the first time said
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publicly that the police believed Claire huff and Barbara Nantes had likely been
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murdered by the same killer I was mad that that it happened to Claire and that we
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weren't informed but who may have been responsible would remain a mystery for four more years
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until Advanced DNA testing revealed two suspects and one of them was one of their own
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[Music] for decades after the murders of Barbara Nantes and Claire Huff the San Diego
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Police Department kept investigating sporadically but nothing had ever materialized
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Claire's friend Kim jamer kept waiting for some news did you think about this case a lot all the time I mean you know
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nothing's going to bring your friend back and you just hope that no one is out there hurting other people
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2012 there was finally a promising development the cases were reopened investigators hoping Advanced DNA
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technology would change the course of things it was encouraging for Barbara's parents Judy and Ralph Nantes
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I was cautiously optimistic they would be disappointed the new DNA test would find nothing useful on their
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daughter but Claire Huff's friend Kim would soon get a visit from a detective he brought several pictures did you see
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any of these people during your trip I didn't recognize anything Kim was given few details but she had a feeling that
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investigators were finally on to something I was like finally somebody's really looking into this
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48 Hours obtained the San Diego Police Department's case affidavits and search warrants and here's what Kim jamer
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didn't know police had found two DNA hits on Claire Huff blood on her jeans was linked to a convicted rapist named
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Ronald Tatro the other DNA a tiny microscopic amount reportedly found inside Claire
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was linked to a man named Kevin Brown police knew Kevin Brown he was a former criminalist in their lab I was getting
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ready for work and there was the knock and two detectives were there Rebecca Brown a Catholic school teacher had been
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married to 61 year old Kevin Brown for more than 20 years Kevin retired from the San Diego Police Department in 2002.
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so I thought okay they're talking about some case that he worked on Rebecca and Kevin met in 1992 through the old school
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version of online dating the classifieds and a few months later they married he was so
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sweet he would open the car door for me and he loved animals like I did he loved
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cats he was a sweetheart the Browns had led a quiet life for evolving Around Church travel and their pets before that
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visit by investigators in January of 2014. did you listen to what they were saying
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to him I started and I thought well that's kind of going odd what's with this the detective showed Brown a
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picture of Ronald Tatro and asked if he knew him what did he say he said I've never seen
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this man I don't know him journalist James vlahos wrote about the case in October 2015 for the Atlantic
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magazine he is a CBS News consultant did the police go and talk to Ronald Tatro when they found his DNA in Claire Huff's
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body they would have liked to have done that but Ronald Tetro was already dead Tatro had drowned in what was ruled a
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boating accident in Tennessee in 2011. but to this day there is suspicion it was a suicide
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his wallet had been placed on the seat his glasses had been placed on the seat and they said it looked as if he
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intended to go into the water another thing that certainly raised his eyebrows is that his death took place on the
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anniversary of Claire Huff's murder Kevin Brown the retired criminalist was now the only living suspect police
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showed him a picture of Claire Huff what did he say oh sure I remember her the detectives told Brown that his DNA
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had been found in the evidence they didn't tell him where how they found it the police maintained that it
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was Kevin who first mentioned the possibility of it being found on a vaginal swab the investigation ramped up
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quickly that same afternoon investigators served a search warrant on his property looking for any evidence
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related to the murders of both Claire huff and Barbara Nantes because they were so similar
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I said you've got to clear this up this is crazy and he said I tried telling them I don't know what they're talking
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about I never killed anybody in my life you know that and I do know that in my deep core I know he never kills anybody
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but investigators believed Kevin Brown had a dark side at the time of Claire Huff's murder Kevin was a bachelor in
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his 30s and had a Randy reputation at the crime lab he had a nickname kinky Kevin Brown that was because we knew
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that he frequented uh strip clubs they called him kinky Kevin yeah we call it his nickname was kinky
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retired criminalist Jim Stamm and John darena worked with Kevin in the lab for years did he brag about going to the
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strip clubs I mean did he make any secret of him early on I don't think he kept it a secret but he did have friends
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that would go with him to either a movie or uh strip club I believe he would go to what dirty movies I believe it was a
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a porn movie yes darina and Stam never saw any inappropriate behavior by Brown in the lab but he made some female
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colleagues uncomfortable there was a criminalist who worked with Kevin Brown and she describes how Kevin
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took a report of a violent rape and when she was alone in the lab with him read it aloud to her and made a remark along
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the lines of isn't that funny after that she never felt comfortable being alone with him in the lab again as they dug
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into Brown's background investigators learned more about his Hobbies he enjoyed photography and in the 80s he
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went to lingerie and Boudoir shoots advertised in a local magazine photographer Rocky Ferguson took photos
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of aspiring models with Kevin so they posed for the photographer and in return they get a free picture yes
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but Rocky says that sometimes certain photographers would make arrangements for private sessions that were more racy
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and and Kevin did that Kevin did his own thing if he likes somebody he'll hire his own models in these private sessions
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what would happen adult type stuff adult stuff naughty stuff yes explicit photos
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Kevin Brown's pastimes as a bachelor may have raised detective's eyebrows but his
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statements during the investigation made them even more suspicious although he initially denied having actually met
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Claire Huff Brown later seemed to make a startling admission he had done some thinking and that he
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now did recall having met someone named Claire in the 1980s and possibly having sex with her
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and then he got himself into even deeper trouble according to the affidavit Kevin
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Brown volunteered to take a lie detector test he failed and after the polygraph an investigator talked to him about
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Claire Huff saying I don't believe for a second that you thought she was 14. Brown reportedly responded I had no idea
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then police learned Kevin Brown had called a friend and told him allegedly the police are looking at me as a
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suspect this girl I photographed on the beach ended up dead [Music] [Music] ever since investigators got that DNA
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hit on Claire Huff in 2012 they had been quietly trying to build a case against Kevin Brown
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but his wife Rebecca Brown stood by him I never thought he was a killer never never this is a man who didn't have a
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mean bone in his body well you know all those things that people are saying about he was going to strip clubs and uh
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photographs of naked women he'd shown me some and majority were just like just cutesy poses Glamor Shots did the fact
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that some of those photo shoots went farther than others bother you about him no it didn't make me I
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he had a normal male sex drive and that was back when he was single and he would
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have thought wow this is a great if everybody whoever looked at a photo of a scantily clad woman or if everybody who
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ever went to a strip club is likely to be a serial killer I'm afraid we're going to have to build quite a few more
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prisons we do not convict people on their character hired on the police procedure attorneys Gene Iredale and
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Gretchen Von Helms represent the Browns this was a violent sadistic choking killing
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the scope of what happened to these poor young women who were brutally sexually assaulted and murdered is quite
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different from going to a strip club or going into a porn shop or reading an off
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color story The Lawyers argue that there is almost no case against Kevin Brown for starters they say investigators
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could never say if or when or how Kevin Brown the mild-mannered criminalist Met Ronald Tatro the violent convicted
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rapist zero evidence that they had ever seen each other met at any time zero they say there are perfectly innocent
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explanations for Kevin Brown's actions and statements like the one he made when detectives showed him a picture of
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Claire Huff he said at one point oh I remember her why did he say that it was a well-known case and that
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photograph that they showed him had been one that had been in the newspaper but Brown also said he may have met someone
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named Claire in the 80s and that he might have had sex with her Iredale says Brown was just being honest I think that
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he said he had met a Claire but declare that he was talking about was a woman who was 30 years old even the
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investigators seemed to acknowledge in the affidavit that this woman did not sound like Claire Huff but remember
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Brown had allegedly also told a friend that he photographed a girl who was found dead on the beach
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the man to whom this statement is attributed says he never said such a thing Gretchen Von Helms argues investigators
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had tunnel vision and interpreted everything Kevin Brown said as evidence of his guilt she says that's what
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happened when Brown told the detective he had no idea Claire was 14. they immediately think the the suspicious
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guilty version of that versus oh my God you're telling me this awful crime a normal citizen when they're told about
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this awful crime and say oh my gosh this poor child was 14 how awful this is the attorneys admit Kevin Brown's
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personality did little to help him during the investigation he was one of the worst public speakers
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let's say in the history of the San Diego Police Department lab he was kind of like a nervous Nelly retired
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criminalist John dorina and Jim Stam say Kevin Brown was at best a shaky witness
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for the police in court cases whenever he got confronted he got very nervous and very upset he wanted to agree he
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wanted to please them I think that his personality is set up so that I could almost convince him to say anything you
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know he could you can bully him it's easy to bully him but Kevin Brown's shyness or awkwardness cannot explain
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his DNA on that swab several swabs were taken from inside Claire during the autopsy the medical examiner tested one
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of them in 1984 and found nothing another swab was sent to the San Diego Police Department lab
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and that's where the lawyers say the trouble began it was not kept in a way that would ensure the Integrity of the
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evidence it was the early 80s before much was known about DNA and the procedures now used to prevent
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contamination did not exist how different were the procedures back then a lot we didn't wear masks for sure
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Kevin Brown did not work on the Claire Huff case but he worked near the criminalist who processed the evidence
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including that swab where a minute amount of Brown's DNA was later found the swab itself was put to dry in the
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open air without a cap on a table near where Mr Brown worked everything that was able to be airborne could have gone
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and touched that swab the the problem though with this case is seems to me that the allegation is that this isn't
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sweat or spit it's a semen how how would his human get on a swab you can still have cross-contamination of semen
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because they had to have fresh samples of semen in the San Diego lab at the time of Claire Huff's murder
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criminalists would often bring their own seminal fluid to the lab and use it to ensure the chemicals used to detect
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semen were working correctly darena and Stan believe that all the criminalists in the lab did it I I think
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Kevin was doing that same thing the San Diego Police Department however insists that contamination was not possible but
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the retired criminalists know what they saw most likely Kevin's Siemens standard
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was in that lab and several analysts may have even had it it may have been even used on that particular on this Huff's
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case we didn't switch gloves back then either so let's say the analyst took Kevin's semen sample we're in the same
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gloves and then handled the deep vaginal swab there's a logical explanation for the contamination
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cross-contamination does happen there have been cases of lab technicians DNA ending up on evidence documented in
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several States and at least four other countries so given the lab procedures in effect at
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the time and the lack of other solid evidence Kevin Brown was assured the case against
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him was weak and I believed that they lacked the evidence necessary to charge Mr Kevin
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Brown with these murders but by mid-2014 the stress of the investigation which was dragging on
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was making Kevin Brown very anxious I said call him and get it straightened out and he said they just said you know you
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killed her and you may as well confess and he hung up the phone and he said I didn't even say anything back to him bet
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because I didn't know what else to say at this point he said I didn't do it and you're not going to ever believe me
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Rebecca hoped their nightmare would soon end but it would not end in a way that anyone expected
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[Music] on the morning of October 20th 2014 Rebecca Brown came home from work and
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found her husband's Bible sitting on the table in it he had underlined a Psalm about being wrongfully accused his watch
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was there and his cell phone was there and so I asked my mother where is Kevin and she had just said he went somewhere
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he went out he was cleaned up he'd shaved he'd showered looked nice and said I have things to do
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Kevin didn't come home that night and the following day Rebecca got the news she feared most I was just sitting there
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waiting and then there was the door knock and it was the detective and he said we've found your husband
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and he's gone a ranger at a state park near where the Browns had a vacation cabin had found Kevin hanging from a
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tree were you surprised even after everything that he'd been we've tried to spirits up you thought you had kept him
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safe oh my God yeah Rebecca Brown is adamant that her husband's suicide was not an admission
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of guilt I totally understand why he did it he knew there would be people who would think even if he went to court
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and was found not guilty that would believe it this was going to tarnish his reputation that he prided
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himself in he didn't Escape that of course after he died the police held a news conference
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yeah three days after his death the San Diego Police Department publicly named Kevin
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Brown as one of two suspects in Claire Huff's murder we were able to establish a very strong case that Ronald Tatro and
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Kevin Brown were the suspects in the murder of Claire huff and also an arrest for brown would be forthcoming you never
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had enough to arrest him in his lifetime and now that he's gone you're going to just say he did it case solved it's done
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why do you think they did that because this can be very tidy for them Rebecca has answered the police charges
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with charges of her own she's filed suit against two San Diego police detectives
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for misconduct and wrongful death he was not a rapist and a killer he was a quiet good man and I'm hoping the
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legal system will help set things right the San Diego Police Department refused our request for an interview but Penny
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and Sam Huff Claire's parents have the answers they need we're confident in the San Diego Police Department and their
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discoveries the Huff family says after 30 years the details surrounding their daughter's death are not as important to
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them as remembering her life we've learned to live with her death we've learned to live without her
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physical presence in our family to us what's important is what Claire was and what Claire
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meant to us and and to the people around her and this is sort of a still life that's a ninth grade Claire left her
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mother and father with a lot of memories well it looks like all her favorite rock
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groups and at 14 she had the foresight to leave a will telling her family and friends that she loved them and not to
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be sad you've made me realize how precious and beautiful life is thank you I wish I could list all the wonderful
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things you've done but everyone would fall asleep [Music] I love you both what did it mean to you that she had
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done this and she had written this it's always a puzzle why she did it but it is also a treasure
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[Music] but the family of Barbara Nantes the first victim in this case still has as
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many questions about her murder as they did in 1978. reality what happened to her
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it's just so hard I want to know where I was I want to know what she would have done police now say Barbara and Claire's
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cases are not connected I would like a viable suspect but we don't have one Ronald tatra was
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in prison for rape at the time of Barbara's murder and Kevin Brown was attending college in Sacramento 500
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miles away Barbara's boyfriend Jim Alt what has it done to you over the years especially with the developments in
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Claire's case to see this case still remain open it's devastating we want answers we want
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to know what they're doing to solve this even today Jim alt says he's suffering from survivor's guilt it has stayed with
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him even though Barbara's father Ralph sent him a letter long ago apologizing for having blamed him for
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her death I want you to know that I don't hold you responsible for Barbara's death when I
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was grieving over her death I needed to blame someone and since she was with you
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I lashed out at you Jim you were trying to be alone with Barbara is probably what every red-blooded American Boy
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dreams of unfortunately the time you spent together turned out to be a disaster but the chance of that
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happening was probably one in a million years truly Ralph fantas it still is hard for you to read that
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without choking up yes sir he's absolving you in a way does that help you when I first read it
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it did but you can't hide what what happened because of a decision Barbara and I made
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she never came home so I owned part of that decision and I'll take that the grade with me
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[Music] [Music] thank you