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thank you Chris how you doing man thank you so much no problem for doing this thank you for me you good to meet
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you it seems like something you probably oh you get accustom to it keep hearing but you get accustomed to it it's an
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amaz like I say it's an amazing thing how accustomed you get to life in prison I mean it's sad to say but you
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do this is this is it this is not what I expected at all this is home yeah away from home so how many other people are
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in here with you 54 56 other people so it's crowded it sucks I mean you do the best that you can yeah you know with
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everything that you have this is pretty much my home this is it this is it right
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here this is all she wrote not allow of space no none but you get the little conveniences of Home pillow blanket TV
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fan it's pretty small it's not enjoyable to be an arm length away from another man this is probably the size of
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something I slept in when I was a kid yeah and this is what I've been living on for 20 years I've been in this unit
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since November of last year so what 4 months when you first came to prison it was the setup wasn't like this no no I
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soon as I came to prison I went to the maximum security here in Idaho for the first 3 years of my sentence what was
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that like scary to actually be around Killers you know rapists people that beat people up and stuff like that
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is there anything about this experience that has made you a better man I've had to grow up growing up in
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here you realize that what you can or cannot handle emotionally physically you know mentally in here I
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grown up to where I know what I can or cannot do now out there I I can't decide because I
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don't know what it's like to be out there