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how would you describe the knife well the knife was a dagger it you know was it had you know sharp edges on both
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sides but what's unusual about the knife is a knife has a hilt on it okay and that's you know where the blade drops
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into the handle there's a a cross piece okay and that was very unusual because it was a gold chain that was basically
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you know inter wound or Twisted together that was the hilt the hilt and was he holding it like this the way you would a
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dagger is it down he wasn't holding it like this I'm pretty sure he was holding it like this with a gun was pointing at
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me at that point he stood in the family room right there and I think investigators interviewed Bunny and Bob
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12 days after the attack bunny demonstrates how she was forced to lay down on the floor he comes up and he's
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got a knee on me and he's pushing me down and he knows I can't go any further down and he's got the knife and he's
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pricking the top of my skull he had a real relationship with that dagger he starts pricking my scalp all over and I
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start whining and saying ow ow ow you know cuz it really hurt but he wasn't breaking the skin at that point and uh
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then he started stabbing me he was building it was the the anxiety was building or whatever was wrong with him
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was building bunny you said that you pushed your head with uh down where was T the night he was controlling the top
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of my head with pricking my scalp and for the first time his agitation was coming out through one of his weapons
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and I knew he was controlling me with the knife it what do you make of the fact that the as salent was kind of
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pricking bunny on the head before he stabbed her well it could be that getting enough uh courage to do it a lot
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of people do hesitation before they kill themselves with a knife or something you'll see hesitation marks where
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they've cut their wrist kind of practicing and then they do it maybe they haven't killed anybody before maybe
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they didn't intend to kill anybody when they came and now they're thinking they're going to have to and they're
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getting up the nerve to do it so they take a few exploratory stabs and then figure out they can do it and then to go
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ahead and do it the Intruder also carried a gun similar to this one the gun looked like a a 9 M 45 caliber
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something like that like a an army gun kind of looking gun a uh uh a squared up kind of thing
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wasn't a smooth looking gun it was Square well the only thing I can think of is the gun was dark and the gun
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didn't glimmer just walking back and forth something real interesting happened is the clip out of his gun had
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come out how I don't know cuz my back's turned this way all I can remember and seeing a clip hit the floor right here
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Bob says he then realized something strange about that gun when he dro the clip on the floor I mean you of course
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I'm looking this way I'm looking right at it and it's dark in here and and I couldn't tell if there was any bullets
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in the clip it did not sound like a full clip would I would think sound in my mind if you guys took a clip that and
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dropped on the floor instead of a a thud sound like thud it's all solid it gave kind of a a Tenny kind of sound like a
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hollow sound yeah like a hollow Tenny sound it turned out not to be a Le a weapon at all investigators were able to
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identify it when a magazine was found at the scene it's actually a prop made by brixia it fires blanks and is used in
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the theater and movies