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What's the first thing General Petraeus changed when he got to the CIA?

May 17, 2016 / 01:55

This episode features discussions on leadership, symbolism in ceremonies, and the culture at the CIA with a focus on the director's experience.

The guest reflects on his transition from military to civilian life after 37 years in uniform, emphasizing the importance of being seen as an outsider. He chose to be referred to as director rather than General to foster a new identity.

He describes the unique entrance to the CIA, noting that the director does not walk across the seal but uses an underground parking lot. This choice symbolizes a departure from tradition.

One significant change he implemented was moving the swearing-in ceremony for new officers to a more intimate setting. This new location allowed families of fallen officers to attend, enhancing the ceremony's emotional weight.

The guest highlights the historical significance of the CIA's corridors, filled with portraits and memorials, which serve as a constant reminder of the agency's legacy and the sacrifices made by its officers.

TLDR

The episode discusses leadership changes and symbolism in CIA ceremonies from the perspective of a former military director.

Episode

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well I was very conscious that I might be seen as an outsider I'd had 37 years in uniform I deliberately decided to
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take the uniform off before joining the organization I arrived with no one from my old uh days uh in fact I arrived
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alone just other than the security uh guards and security Force so I think that sent an important message to them I
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asked to be you know referred to as director or W rather than General you actually don't walk across
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the seal when you uh arrive every day as the Director of the Central Intelligence
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Agency you're actually in an underground parking lot which has a special elevator
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which goes up to the the floor in which the director's office is located one of the early decisions that I made was that
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we were going to move the swearing in ceremony for the new officers from this very very large cavernous Auditorium
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called the bubble to an event uh where we closed off that front entrance had the seal there and more importantly had
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the wall of stars and they actually sat facing the wall of stars each star represents an officer who has fallen uh
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in service and it's one of the very few days where their families were allowed into the agency that was a big deal in
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my mind I think there was a lot of symbolism and that front hallway is extraordinary as is the hallway where
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you walk walk past all the director's portraits and so on there is a sense of history there and indeed there's a
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continual effort to increase uh the recognition of that history by what you see as an officer walking through the
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the corridors of that great organization

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Episode Highlights

  • A New Beginning
    Transitioning from military to CIA, he chose to leave his uniform behind.
    “I deliberately decided to take the uniform off before joining the organization.”
    @ 00m 06s
    May 17, 2016
  • Honoring Fallen Officers
    The swearing-in ceremony was moved to honor fallen officers with a wall of stars.
    “Each star represents an officer who has fallen in service.”
    @ 01m 13s
    May 17, 2016

Episode Quotes

  • I arrived alone, just the security guards.
    What's the first thing General Petraeus changed when he got to the CIA?
  • Each star represents an officer who has fallen in service.
    What's the first thing General Petraeus changed when he got to the CIA?
  • There is a sense of history there.
    What's the first thing General Petraeus changed when he got to the CIA?

Key Moments

  • Transition00:06
  • Ceremony Change00:55
  • Wall of Stars01:13
  • Sense of History01:33