The Business of Selling Calm
Episode Description
ABOUT THE EPISODE In a beverage market built around energy, caffeine, and alcohol, Recess is building a brand around the opposite need: a moment to unwind.
Zech Francis, CMO of Recess, explains how the company is making relaxation a more relatable consumer occasion. He discusses the strategy behind mood-support sparkling water and zero-proof mocktails, how Recess is expanding beyond a single product into a broader platform brand, and why rituals and real-world sampling matter when marketing a new category.
Francis also shares how Recess uses retail media, Amazon, and product trial to build awareness, and why AI works best as a tool for stronger human thinking rather than a substitute for it.
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Brief Summary
Zach Francis discusses Recess, a functional beverage brand promoting relaxation amidst rising stress and anxiety in consumers.
Key points
- Zach's Unique Path. Zach shares his unconventional journey to success without a college degree.
- Taste Test on Air. The hosts and Zach taste Recess beverages live, sharing their reactions.
- The Rise of Relaxation Beverages. Zach Francis discusses how brands like Recess counteract overstimulation with calming drinks.
- The Rise of Relaxation Brands. As stress and anxiety become prevalent, brands like Recess are emerging as a counterweight.
- The Shift in Alcohol Consumption. High ABV ready-to-drink cocktails are saving the alcohol industry amidst declining sales.
- New Zero Proof Products. Recess is launching exciting new flavors like espresso teeny and apple teeny.
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Episode highlights
- Zach's Unique PathZach shares his unconventional journey to success without a college degree.“I'm going to figure it out. I'm not going to go to college.”2:35Sep 24, 2026
- Taste Test on AirThe hosts and Zach taste Recess beverages live, sharing their reactions.“Oh, this is delicious!”4:35Sep 24, 2026
- The Rise of Relaxation BeveragesZach Francis discusses how brands like Recess counteract overstimulation with calming drinks.“We're not selling just one product; we're building a platform for unwinding.”10:11Sep 24, 2026
- The Rise of Relaxation BrandsAs stress and anxiety become prevalent, brands like Recess are emerging as a counterweight.“We're entering more and more overstimulating, overstressed, over anxious times.”18:31Sep 24, 2026
- The Shift in Alcohol ConsumptionHigh ABV ready-to-drink cocktails are saving the alcohol industry amidst declining sales.“High ABV, ready to drink cocktails are quite literally what is saving the alcohol industry.”19:31Sep 24, 2026
- New Zero Proof ProductsRecess is launching exciting new flavors like espresso teeny and apple teeny.“We have this really exciting espresso teeny flavor that's coming out.”19:54Sep 24, 2026
- The Role of AI in MarketingAI is viewed as a tool for enhancing creativity and connecting with consumers.“AI is always on thought partner for me.”29:04Sep 24, 2026





