Building an Institution From a Blank Page | Grit in the Boardroom
- Aug 10, 2026
- 56:53
- Full Episode
In this episode of Grit in the Boardroom, Erika Eliasson-Norris, CEO of Beyond Governance, sits down with Juergen Maier CBE for an in depth executive interview on leadership decisions, institutional building, and what it truly takes to lead when the stakes are national. As founding Chair of Great British Energy, the UK's publicly owned energy company backed by £8.3 billion of public investment, Juergen built a national institution from a blank page, no staff, no offices, no governance framework, delivering an in-depth masterclass in high-stakes and business resilience.
Together, Erika and Juergen explore the c suite insights behind making boardroom decisions and strategic decision making when your shareholder is a politician with a manifesto, the tension between independence and accountability in state-owned governance, and why authentic leadership in crisis builds more trust than polished authority ever could. This is a director dialogue that moves from corporate governance principles to deeply personal conviction, offering governance lessons that every board needs to hear.
What you'll find in this episode:
Why building a national institution from nothing requires strategy, culture and corporate governance from day one, and how board effectiveness depends on the framework outlasting the founder.
How boardroom decisions and leadership decisions are made when your shareholder is a politician with a manifesto, and why clarity of purpose protects independence.
What 33 years at one company teaches about long-termism, risk management, and why the best management case studies are those where leaders stayed and built rather than moved on.
How company culture change starts when leaders show vulnerability, reject performative authority, and demonstrate that values matter more than performance alone.
Why trade union voices on the board strengthen corporate governance and ensure the worker's perspective shapes boardroom decisions at the highest level.
How planned succession and fixed-term chairmanships create better governance lessons for state-owned organisations and force leaders to build systems that outlast them.
Why hiding your authentic self for 15 years taught Juergen more about board effectiveness than any governance framework, and what changed when he stopped editing who he was.
How navigating cross-border complexity, competing masters, and cultural difference reveals the real mechanics of inclusion and strategic decision making under pressure.
Why growth under pressure demands both boldness and a clear purpose that people, boards, and stakeholders can rally around, and how turnaround stories are not always about rescue but about creation.
About the Guest Juergen Maier CBE is the founding Chair of Great British Energy, the UK's publicly owned energy company established in 2024 with £8.3 billion of public investment. He is steering the organisation through its startup phase before handing the chairmanship to a permanent successor in 2026. Previously, Juergen spent 33 years at Siemens, rising from production engineer to CEO of Siemens UK and Ireland, where he championed industrial strategy, regional reindustrialisation, and inclusive leadership across a workforce of 15,000. He led the creation of the Made Smarter movement to accelerate digital technology adoption in UK manufacturing and the social enterprise vocL, which supports underrepresented business voices in finding confidence and platform.
About the host Erika Eliasson-Norris is Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of Beyond Governance and Governance Assessor to the United Kingdom’s Post Office Horizon IT Inquiry.
About Grit in the Boardroom: Grit in the Boardroom is a bi-weekly podcast where Erika Eliasson-Norris sits down with the best in business for executive interviews. She and her guests explore corporate governance beyond the sealed doors of the C-suite. As Governance Assessor for the Post Office Horizon IT Inquiry, the largest public inquiry in UK history, Erika Eliasson-Norris is helping shape accountability, governance reform, and corporate oversight across the UK.
Brief Summary
Jurgen Maier shares his journey from Germany to leading Great British Energy, emphasizing diversity, mentorship, and the importance of community in business.
Key points
- The Impact of Leaving Your Whole Self Behind. Reflecting on the importance of authenticity in the workplace.
- Lessons from a Long Career. Exploring the benefits of long-term commitment to a single company.
- A Journey from Disappointment to Diversity. Discussing the stark contrast between Leeds in the 1970s and today.
- Navigating Conflicting Interests. How to balance local and global business interests.
- The Importance of Inclusion. How diverse teams lead to better outcomes.
- Leadership Reflection. Reflecting on past mistakes can lead to better future decisions. "It's always good as a leader to reflect..."
Episode highlights
- Lessons from a Long CareerExploring the benefits of long-term commitment to a single company.“It teaches you that good business is at the heart of communities.”0:30Aug 10, 2026
- A Journey from Disappointment to DiversityDiscussing the stark contrast between Leeds in the 1970s and today.“It was a real baptism of fire.”3:50Aug 10, 2026
- Navigating Conflicting InterestsHow to balance local and global business interests.“The job was actually to try and find common ground.”15:36Aug 10, 2026
- The Importance of InclusionHow diverse teams lead to better outcomes.“I've just seen those very diverse and inclusive teams create the best possible outcomes.”19:52Aug 10, 2026
- Leadership ReflectionReflecting on past mistakes can lead to better future decisions. "It's always good as a leader to reflect..."“It's always good as a leader to reflect and we're all learning, right?”23:05Aug 10, 2026
- Starting from ScratchBecoming chair of a new company with no staff or rules is daunting. "What did you actually do on day one?"“What did you actually do on day one? How do you start from that blank sheet?”23:36Aug 10, 2026
- Public Ownership PurposeGreat British Energy aims to create societal value through public ownership. "You cannot run a successful, sustainable long-term company..."“You cannot run a successful, sustainable long-term company if you're not looking after society and community.”41:50Aug 10, 2026
- The Importance of AuthenticityA leader reflects on the impact of hiding their true self at work.“Bringing your whole self to work is so important.”45:08Aug 10, 2026





