How Do You Stay Friends When Everything Changes?
- Aug 21, 2026
- 48:29
- Full Episode
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Wait no longer, part two of my conversation about friendship with Cari, Jenève, and Noah is here! Find out what happens to friendships as we grow up, move away, get married, have kids, change our beliefs, and become different versions of ourselves. We talk about how adult friendship often looks less like perfectly planned nights out and more like helping a friend clean the house, running errands together, or simply eating pizza and playing cards. We also dig into why shared values and the willingness to let people change can matter more than having identical beliefs. You’ll also here as we compare our homeschool experiences, talk about AWANA and Adventures in Odyssey, share creative projects we made together, and reflected on some of the "glow ups" we've experienced since leaving homeschooling. Ultimately, this conversation comes back to one thing: find the people who will keep showing up as you grow and change.
*In this episode, we talk about:* • How homeschool communities can create friendships that feel more like family. • Why some childhood friendships naturally deepen while others don’t become close until adulthood. • Maintaining friendships across distance, college, relationships, and major life changes. • The strange pressure many homeschoolers experienced around boys and girls being friends and the assumption that friendship must mean dating. • How purity culture and fear of romantic relationships affected the way we understood attraction, dating, and physical affection. • Why protecting kids from every painful experience can leave them unprepared for adulthood — and how supportive friendships can give young people a safe place to learn from difficult experiences. • The healing that can happen when adult children and their parents finally have honest conversations about the past.
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*Chapters* 00:00 Welcome Back To The Ex-Homeschoolers Club 00:22 Ways You Can Support The Show 01:04 Why Adult Friendships Are Hard 02:06 Leaning Into Mom Friends 05:10 Errands As Hangouts 08:47 Friendship Phases And Adapting 10:17 Kids As A New Hobby 12:02 Values Keep Friends Close 14:54 Sticking Through Big Changes 17:58 Homeschool Similarities 20:55 Mime Memories And Odyssey 22:15 Nostalgia Versus Deconstruction 24:54 Mime Confidence And Showman 26:03 Showman Song Tangent 26:52 Their Book Plug 27:54 Mixed Metaphors Origin 29:37 How The Book Works 30:23 Old Songs And Videos 31:09 Three Hour Movie Story 33:21 Creating Together Lessons 35:20 Homeschool Glow Up Talk 36:53 Glow Up Stories 46:42 Wrapping Up And Community
Brief Summary
Jacob and guests discuss the evolution and maintenance of adult friendships, focusing on shared experiences and values.
Key points
- Navigating Adult Friendships. The conversation dives into the complexities of maintaining friendships as adults, emphasizing the need for adaptation and understanding.
- Finding Common Ground. The group discusses how friendships evolve, especially when friends have children and different life priorities.
- AWANA Memories. A nostalgic look back at the AWANA program and its impact on childhood.
- The Importance of Being Earnest. A humorous recount of a homemade film project that turned into a grand premiere.
- Homeschool Glow-Up. Exploring personal transformations and the journey of self-acceptance.
- Finding Community. Discussing the importance of friendship and building connections in life.
Episode highlights
- Navigating Adult FriendshipsThe conversation dives into the complexities of maintaining friendships as adults, emphasizing the need for adaptation and understanding.“Friendships adapt, and this is the part where they adapt.”7:31Aug 21, 2026
- Finding Common GroundThe group discusses how friendships evolve, especially when friends have children and different life priorities.“It's easier to have a few close friends.”11:50Aug 21, 2026
- AWANA MemoriesA nostalgic look back at the AWANA program and its impact on childhood.“AWANA kids were... I did it for the badges, man.”19:10Aug 21, 2026
- The Importance of Being EarnestA humorous recount of a homemade film project that turned into a grand premiere.“We had a whole premiere. We had a red carpet at someone's house.”31:41Aug 21, 2026
- Homeschool Glow-UpExploring personal transformations and the journey of self-acceptance.“My glow up was very different.”37:15Aug 21, 2026
- Finding CommunityDiscussing the importance of friendship and building connections in life.“It's nice to know we have friends.”47:54Aug 21, 2026





