Barry Soper on Ardern, Garner & 12 Prime Ministers
- Jun 13, 2026
- 1:11
- Short
Barry Soper has been a journalist for 50 years across twelve prime ministers - he's watched New Zealand politics up close since 1980.
Muldoon carried up the steps of Government House, Bill English getting the phone call that ended his leadership. Key through the GFC, Ardern through Covid - and he doesn't spare her. He calls Duncan Garner the biggest bully he's ever known. He was there for it all.
Very excited to release this one - watch or listen wherever you get your podcasts.
Brief Summary
Heather and her partner discuss their age gap and public perception of their relationship.
Key points
- Unexpected Love. A surprising romance blossoms despite a significant age gap.
- Marriage in Parliament. They tied the knot in a historic venue, defying age expectations.
