OpenAI's GPT-5 Flop, AI's Unlimited Market, China's Big Advantage, Rise in Socialism, Housing Crisis
- Aug 9, 2025
- 1:50:43
- Full Episode
(0:00) Bestie intros! Gavin Baker, Ben Shapiro, and Phil Deutch join the show (7:32) GPT-5 underwhelms, benchmark saturation, OpenAI's product excellence (18:14) AI's TAM, ROIC, and energy implications (27:27) China's major advantage and how the US can counter it (43:46) Political parties picking winners, energy subsidy reversal, how the bureaucratic branch was created and how to fix it (52:38) Socialism, OBBB impact on energy, does socialism in the US rely on Mamdani in NYC? (1:10:00) Tariffs update: $125B+ revenue so far, India and Switzerland hit hard, Trump's ad hoc approach (1:27:51) Nvidia chips being smuggled to China (1:31:13) Apple's $700B in buybacks since 2015 and failing AI strategy (1:40:09) Summer reading recommendations
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Referenced in the show: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-08-08/openai-s-gpt-5-met-with-mixed-reviews-confusion-in-first-day https://www.anthropic.com/news/build-ai-in-america https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whE75zEFBpU https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/time-series/demo/historic.html https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/two-chinese-nationals-arrested-complaint-alleging-they-illegally-shipped-china-sensitive https://www.ft.com/content/6f806f6e-61c1-4b8d-9694-90d7328a7b54
Brief Summary
The episode discusses AI advancements, the All-In Summit, and tariff impacts with guests Ben Shapiro, Gavin Baker, and Phil Deutsch.
Key points
- Ben Shapiro's New Book. Ben discusses his upcoming book, contrasting builders and destroyers in society.
- AI Model Release Controversy. Discussion on the underwhelming release of GPT-5 and its implications.
- AI's Energy Demand. The energy implications of AI are significant, potentially surpassing major legislation like the Inflation Reduction Act.
- China's Solar Surge. China's rapid expansion in solar energy outpaces all other countries, raising competitive concerns.
- The Threat of AI Consolidation. The consolidation of AI raises fears of corporatism winning if adversaries like China get ahead.
- The Rise of State Authority. As federal governance becomes unworkable, state actors are taking more authority.
Episode highlights
- Ben Shapiro's New BookBen discusses his upcoming book, contrasting builders and destroyers in society.“We're watching civilization break down between people who want to build and people who want to tear down.”3:26Aug 9, 2025
- AI Model Release ControversyDiscussion on the underwhelming release of GPT-5 and its implications.“This is the first time they have not released a model that wasn't decisively better.”13:24Aug 9, 2025
- AI's Energy DemandThe energy implications of AI are significant, potentially surpassing major legislation like the Inflation Reduction Act.“AI's energy implications are probably bigger than the inflation reduction act.”22:11Aug 9, 2025
- China's Solar SurgeChina's rapid expansion in solar energy outpaces all other countries, raising competitive concerns.“China added more panels last year than any other country has in total.”26:22Aug 9, 2025
- The Threat of AI ConsolidationThe consolidation of AI raises fears of corporatism winning if adversaries like China get ahead.“If they get there first, then corporatism wins.”42:40Aug 9, 2025
- The Rise of State AuthorityAs federal governance becomes unworkable, state actors are taking more authority.“Governors are picking up the mantle.”51:55Aug 9, 2025
- The Consequences of SocialismThe speaker warns that socialism could lead to disastrous outcomes in New York City.“It'll take a year, two years for those policies to actually hit and destroy all of New York.”1:02:39Aug 9, 2025
- Tariff Revenue PredictionsPredictions are made about the revenue generated from tariffs in 2025, with varying opinions.“Right now it's looking like the number is 200 to 500 billion.”1:11:11Aug 9, 2025





