Inside the Iran War and the Pentagon's Feud with Anthropic with Under Secretary of War Emil Michael
- Mar 6, 2026
- 1:22:59
- Full Episode
(0:00) The Besties welcome Under Secretary of War Emil Michael (2:30) US war with Iran: Bigger picture and why now? (13:16) Trump's new approach to warfare, AI, drones, rules of engagement (28:39) Israel's role in the conflict, relationship with the US, Iron Beam (37:24) Oil prices, Trump's maritime insurance play (41:19) Pentagon vs Anthropic: Why Anthropic was labeled a supply-chain risk (1:02:03) How to value Anthropic after its supply chain risk designation (1:11:14) State of the US defense supply chain, the defense tech industry, DARPA, and China's military
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Brief Summary
The episode discusses U.S.-Israel military operations against Iran, featuring insights from Emil Michael on technology and geopolitical implications.
Key points
- Operation Epic Fury. The US and Israel launch a joint attack on Iran, resulting in significant casualties.
- The Role of Technology in Warfare. Discussion on how advancements in technology have changed military operations.
- The Future of Drone Warfare. A discussion on the evolution of drone technology and AI in military applications.
- Military Autonomy Debate. Exploring the moral implications of granting full autonomy to military drones.
- Israel's Influence on U.S. Military Actions. Debating the extent of Israel's influence over U.S. military decisions in the Middle East.
- Voting Preferences Revealed. A discussion on political preferences reveals surprising admissions about voting choices.
Episode highlights
- Operation Epic FuryThe US and Israel launch a joint attack on Iran, resulting in significant casualties.“Today is day six of Operation Epic Fury.”2:31Mar 6, 2026
- The Role of Technology in WarfareDiscussion on how advancements in technology have changed military operations.“We have a very sophisticated way of doing these things to minimize loss of life and maximize success.”15:38Mar 6, 2026
- The Future of Drone WarfareA discussion on the evolution of drone technology and AI in military applications.“A sophisticated drone war is going to be drone swarms controlled by AI.”20:55Mar 6, 2026
- Military Autonomy DebateExploring the moral implications of granting full autonomy to military drones.“When you press the button and hand over complete autonomy, do we have a moral issue?”25:56Mar 6, 2026
- Israel's Influence on U.S. Military ActionsDebating the extent of Israel's influence over U.S. military decisions in the Middle East.“Does Israel have too much influence over the United States?”29:07Mar 6, 2026
- Voting Preferences RevealedA discussion on political preferences reveals surprising admissions about voting choices.“I would have voted for the moderates.”36:47Mar 6, 2026
- Economic Impact of Insurance ChangesThe potential reshoring of maritime insurance to the U.S. could create new opportunities.“This could actually reshore or onshore maritime insurance back to the United States.”40:50Mar 6, 2026
- AI's Power Compared to Nuclear WeaponsThe discussion highlights the immense power of AI technologies, likening them to nuclear bombs.“This is as powerful as a nuclear bomb.”51:00Mar 6, 2026





