“There Is No Legal Confidentiality When Using Chat GPT” Facing The AI Privacy Issue

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Brief Summary

Sam Alman and David Saxs discuss AI privacy, certification, and the need for legal protections for AI interactions.

Key points

  • AI User Privacy Concerns. The conversation shifts to the growing issue of privacy in AI interactions, especially with tools like ChatGPT.
  • The Need for AI Certification. A proposal is made to certify AI models like professionals to ensure accountability and privacy.

Transcript

We should talk about this this um AI privacy issue that Sam Alman mentioned. All right, that's a great segue because I saw that as well, David Saxs, and uh as our civil servant working on AI, this is something where you can have an additional contribution. There's more work we can give you. All right, listen. Here it is. AI user privacy is becoming an issue because friend of the pod Sam Alman says there is no legal confidentiality when using his product Chat GPT. Here's a 30 second clip again. Friend of the pod fop Sam Alman on Theo Vaughn. People talk about the most personal in their lives to chatt young people

especially like use it as a therapist, a life coach, uh having these relationship problems. What should I do? And right now if you talk to a therapist or a lawyer or a doctor about those problems, there's like legal privilege for it. We haven't figured that out yet for when you talk to Chad GBT. So if you go talk to CHP about your most sensitive stuff and then there's like a lawsuit or whatever, like we could be required to produce that and I think that's very screwed up. I think we should have like the same concept of privacy for your conversations with AI that we do with a therapist or whatever. Okay, Saxs, this is bringing up

something super important. What's your take on it? Okay. Well, I I think this is an interesting topic because like copyright, this is an area where we have existing law, but it does make you rethink whether those laws are truly applicable or make as much sense in this new world. So, the existing law, the existing example is search history. You know, the government can get a copy of your search history. They can subpoena it. Yeah. Every true crime story starts with the person's search for how do I kill my husband slowly with you know poison and then they Yeah. That's right. Exactly. The point is though that

I think Sam is right about the legal treatment right now which is that your chat history isn't any different than the search history in the eyes of the law. But it is much more personal. It's much more interactive than your search history. You are using it like you said. You could use it as a as your doctor. You could use it as your therapist. You could use as your lawyer. And so the ability for the federal government to be intrusive is so much greater than with your search history. So I don't know what like the right policy should be yet, but I I will say it does make me uncomfortable. Yeah, there's a market. Can I make a recommendation to my AIR? Yes, please. He's our

Why don't we let AI models get bar certified and get medically certified? So if the AI models, it turns out, are actually proving to be more accurate, more thoughtful, more responsive, more reasonable, whatever it is, whatever metric we're using, and they pass the same criteria as one would need to pass to qualify for the bar or to qualify for a doctor certificate. Why don't we do that for the AI? If that then happens, then the the same privilege occurs to the AI as it does to the individual human that does it. And now if you extrapolate from where that takes us, if we're suddenly giving AI the same sort of privileged rights that we give to privileged

humans, where's that going to take us ultimately with respect to the overall rights for AI? Well, and they have responsibility. Hold on a second. I just want to point out here once again, you have a mind-blowing concept here. I've never heard anybody vocalize that. Could they actually be certified in that knowledge? And if they pass the test, makes sense they would. But then you also get responsibility. So with great power comes great responsibility. I will tell you this. You can turn this stuff off. But this is an opportunity. I'm going to send a note to El. It sounds crazy today, but I guarantee if you put it on Poly Market, there will

be a date when this happens. Let's do it. Poly market. Shout out to Shane. Let's get that up there. I just want to point out I'm going to email Elon about this when I get off the pod. This is an opportunity to create the signal of the signal equivalent of an LLM. The all of your chat should be encrypted. All of it should be by by default. encrypt it by default on Grock. Make it so that Grock can't even see it. They don't have it. So when you try to subpoena it, you can do what Tim Cook does, which he says like I don't have it. You if you want to try to back door it, you can. That's a market opportunity. I can tell you I only use

the Brave browser and Brave search for this reason. I don't want my search history like saved somewhere or whatever. That you can take control of this as an individual, but the defaults matter and you have to then do the work. It's a great market opportunity. Hey Chimoth, I don't even want to know what you're talking to chat GPT about. What are you What's in your chat GBT logs? What's in there, Chimoth? How to extend? How to get the extra centimeter? What's in there? You trying to What's in there? I keep asking it to find me a moderator. Oh, great. I keep asking it to find me a participant who's not a douche. Um, my god, you are so deep in your villain

era and you're leaning into it and I'm so here for it. I love your villain. You know why I am so Why are you going into your villain era? I am so riskon right now. It's like it's liberating actually. It's amazing. It's really amazing. Is there any blowback to how outlandish you've become this year? Any blowback at all? Has it had any negative consequence on business or hiring or anything? No. But but outlandish? How how have I been outlandish? You're you're you're just filter off. You're filter off as And I think it's great. I think the over two windows back. It's absolutely fantastic we're seeing here. I asked Chad GPT about my

future and uh my IQ. It's very interesting when you ask ChatGpt to analyze you. I suggest everyone do it. Well, actually, yeah, when you just ask ChatGpt or whatever, what do you know about me? And it's scary how much it already does. It's scary. There's this great personality test. You can put this personality test into Grock and this guy like made this prompt and it goes and it tells you all your personality based on your Twitter ex history. It is wild how accurate it is. What does it say about you, Jal? I'm actually curious. It says the same thing about all of us. We're all likeworked

narcissist ENTJ. You can literally run the MyersBriggs against your Yeah. your chat history. It's actually But I I like your mind-blowing concept there, by the way, of like them becoming certified in some

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