Inauguration Interviews: Trump's Talent, Dem Rebrand & more w/ Whip Emmer, Reps Swalwell & Khanna

[Music] all right everybody Welcome to uh the Allin inauguration special we are here in town uh to celebrate Andor commiserate the second term of Donald Trump depending on where you sit on the political spectrum and we are extremely lucky to have a partner in Spotify who has given us a box yes we're in a glass box on the street they really splurged and got a trailer it's absolutely fantastic but we thank them for their host us it's very cool uh with me today of course my co-host shth poaa and David freeberg who is a little under the weather because let's be honest freedberg you've been out there you and

Lex took on the town last night I had a good time with Lex Freedman last night it was good let's leave it at that let's leave it at that yeah that sounds great it's been a couple nights in a row I'm pretty beat jamaath you have a very busy social schedule and uh you've been just bouncing around town with the Who's Who and taking CR for Donald Trump's Victory how's the Victory lap going here cuz you played such a key role here by coming out and being even more unlikable in our hometown of the Bay Area and supporting Trump I'm a small bit player a bit player but as you said to me in the car over here you were the folc room that started the boulder that created the win I said none of that but uh I think more

changes are coming Jason maybe to our home state of California let's see let's see um let's see phase two we're extremely um honored to have Tom Emer here he is the US representative from The Amazing state of Minnesota home of Bob Dyan Prince and the Cohen Brothers and Tim Walls and Tim Walls coming in hot already well let's start there let's start there um how much of a disaster uh was the Democratic party and when you watched what happened with Biden in all seriousness do you think there was a cover up in terms of his mental acuity and what do you think of kamla's job out there not doing podcasts and uh essentially being anointed and

not having a primary the Democratic party seems lost crooked and crooked okay yeah I mean the leadership I I got good friends who are Democrats so I don't I'm not going to disparage them but uh first Jason all of you thank you it's nice to be on Allin I heard everybody's heard about it everybody wants to be here so it's just nice that and you promised you'd listen to it after this right actually I listened last week sadly it was about the fires but uh uh the uh the way they did this uh was if you think about it ballot access is a big thing you you have to run for uh months and you have to get delegates and you have to make your case state by state

and you have to meet certain requirements to actually end up on the ballot how the Democrats are able to remove move Joe Biden literally uh in a coup a back room coup and install kamla Harris in a matter of hours or days uh and avoid any convention uh like real democracy taking place where people are debating their candidates and where they're at and then to your your uh other question that that's wrong but your other question was uh Joe Biden was there a coverup I a coverup is when you don't see it when you don't know about it when you're totally unaware this wasn't a coverup this was a conspiracy everybody in this town for four years watched when he came in he was already

diminished and watch him continue to diminish over the course of his uh over the course of his uh uh term it was the mainstream media that refused to actually comment on it and then it was amazing overnight when uh he has the debate last June it's like oh my gosh this is terrible look at this and and suddenly it was like they'd never seen it before this was a conspiracy by a left-wing media that uh they're littered with people who have a partisan View and they write about it they create stories about it and they don't tell you the whole story if you were here let's go down this pull this thread a little bit more because you said the the Democrats themselves are good people some of them

many of them you know but then the leadership you said was corrupt so just can you help us understand who is the leadership and then how does the corruption play out what does the corruption look like well remember I'm on the Republican side yeah no but I'm but I I can tell you what I watch what I watch is there were two times that they literally whoever they are it would be the superdelegates it a lot of people would say it's the Obamas it's the clintons it's the you know by original that's the that's the boogeyman for what it's worth that people point to at least when you're not in DC like if somebody said who who are the leadership elected or otherwise that runs a Democratic

party a lot of people would point to the Obamas and then some of these super donors is that sort of your perception of how it works it is and the reason I I go back as you'll remember Bernie Sanders is marching towards the Democratic nomination right and they get to South Carolina and all of a sudden Amy kashar from my state it's just one after another I'm out I'm out I support uh Joe Biden right clearly the whoever that is because you're right we're not in the room to see is it the Obamas is it uh Consultants like Carville or Axel Rod or whoever who is in that room yeah uh but whoever's in that room they have a plan when it gets to the end and I I never thought Joe uh

Biden was going to be the candidate and that's not how the Republican Party operates because I think some people in the public have this perception that both parties operate that way that there is a cabal of the the most influential and ultimately they end up getting to pick and the other party does the same thing is that not the case no and clearly that wasn't the case with Trump right yeah no ours I I would say that watching from the outside again we're not on the inside of the Democrat machine but watching from the outside that's a top- down process on the Republican side that's a bottom up process and uh Donald

Trump is the best example of best example because uh people in this town you know especially in the house where I serve are like you know we we got the American people we have a mandate and you got to remind them yeah no no Donald Trump has a mandate he got 77 million votes we got a little less than 75 million so if you're looking at who literally is expanding this party and pulling this party over the line it's one guy it's Donald Trump so to your point do you view him the party leader I do so to your point this was a almost like a Donald Trump hostile takeover of the Republicans meaning if you look at the establishment rhetoric of what Republicans stood for I don't think

Trump really cared he had a point of view and he had his own intellectual agenda and ideology and to your point 77 million people said I go with that do you think that that's possible on the Democratic side as well do you think that there's a different ideology that needs to be born there I can only tell you the experience I've had with one of my Minnesota colleagues who I I won't name him but he might have run against the uh sitting president I he he was we were talking on the house floor one day and I was uh complaining to or giving him a hard time I should say about some of the uh off-color remarks coming from the squad and he made a point of telling me

off color sorry off color H well let's just say there were some anti-semitic uh comments uh All About the Benjamins this stuff and there was a centure that was being worked on oh wow yeah and uh uh it was public but the point is when I was saying boy you've had quite a week he goes oh yeah yeah he says that's a very small group of people in our party with very large voices and my response to him was okay well that might be true but then people like you have to stand up and speak up and take my grandfather's Democrat Party back exactly and so no I think they've got a problem identity politics which they've perfected and been playing for years it has now come back to bite them and there's where is

the way out they don't have a brand they don't know who they are they they they're fighting about things like men participating in in women's sports I mean it just it isn't resonating with the American people so they're they're going to have to figure that out for the future but on our side we're going to have to figure out Donald Trump is the one that pulled this across the line here's here's the problem with the Republican party for me the last 30 years we've had great people representing us but the public has been very frustrated because it seems like government and the bureau rats always get a better deal right than the average citizen in this country right we're

talking about Main Street we're not talking about Silicon Valley which has its own Main Street but I'm talking about just good old Main Street USA you know where it's rural country it's uh you know people who are just trying to live their lives they feel like their government hasn't been listening to them for years this is what spawned the tea party this is why we've had this over and over and Donald Trump you got to give him credit this energy was out there and he actually grabbed it and he showed us what it looked like when he ran in 16 and he took the time to understand it or or he just innately has an ability to read people better than I've ever seen yeah I mean I think he is

a generational retail politician generational I think he's a one in 150 year leader yeah freeberg you have a lot of thoughts on fiscal responsibility and have been bangging the drum on the national debt Tom you also have a passion for responsibility maybe you have some butts on that freeberg or maybe you can tell us your point of view on how much of an impact Doge can have I don't know if you've talked and what you think reconciliation is going to look like I mean this is going to be a very gnarly pitch battle here how how do we get two trillion out of the why you st bug exactly why are you stopping at well actually let's ask that question is two

even possible and if so how do you think you can get $2 trillion out of it so I'd rather let's do it two ways I'd rather I look at what's uh what could we put on the table and we do this privately so you won't get me to say what it is where it is but I'll tell you there's a list that we've sat down with that uh reaches somewhere between five and seven trillion a year uh over the next 10 years okay and the the uh that's what that two trillion would be over the next 10 years okay I mean it listen if if you're the budget's 7.2 what's that the budget the annual budget 7.2 right so the goal is first we got to balance the budget you got to quit bleeding 1.5 to

2.2 trillion oh it's another trillion yeah whatever you got to balance yeah second thing you got to do is start to bend the curve down we we got the greatest economy in the world it hasn't been performing where it could I I think with Donald Trump we can put it in place where it can you can see those revenues start to go up again and you if youve have this so you're controlling it you could pay that you could pay that down rather quickly I mean if you're talking in terms of a decade this requires sacrifice and it requires representatives from each City uh and each state to then go to their constituents and say hey we fought to

get you X Y and Z and you're only going to get X and Y yeah be careful some tell you they fight but they're not really fighting the uh I this this thing is going to happen because of Donald Trump I think I I leave it to Mike Johnson he's the speaker he will make these decisions I'm not got it I'm the whip whatever you tell me my job is to make sure we get it done and that's what we'll do but I think you're going to see a two trck process Mike Johnson for reconciliation has set a deadline he wants to vote on a budget resolution by the first week of February why is that important the budget resolution you have to have before you can even move forward

with uh uh reconciliation that's usually pre-negotiated with the Senate so if we can keep with that aggressive timeline you'll have that back to the house sometime in February once you have that that allows your 12 subcommittees to get their allotment and start to build out their right 12 appropriation subcommittees build out their budgets Jason Smith our ways and means chair believes we can have that process done by the end of March Mike in again in this our speaker in this uh very aggressive timeline if that's possible he would like to vote on it in the house in the first two weeks of April this includes

the tax permanency extensions Etc from the Trump tax cuts back in 2017 if we're able to keep to that schedule then you could you could realistically have a Reconciliation Bill to president's Trump's desk by Memorial weekend let's just talk about the other long-term Challenge and your point of view on the solution what's going to happen to Social Security by 2030 2032 2033 where's this headed why I think people are going to have to innovate and I think you got to honor the promises that have been made uh there are many different things out there that are being looked at like a voluntary program that people I in a certain range and this is above my my pay grade A Certain

range age range y like I don't know 18 to whatever it is that are just coming into this system that it would give them a choice right they would have a choice to stay in Social Security as we know it or to pursue a private route that will have Federal parameters so you can't just be putting it into a retirement account taking it out it would serve the same purpose but like Australia system the super system it would obviously and then it would grow the uh the private side yeah and sorry is that ultimately necessary we need to change Social Security and when do we have to change it by and now that the election is over because every politician is scared to

talk about social security because everyone's got an election coming up are we going to hear something different this time around or is it always going to be the Kick the Can down the road with Social Security and weever it's just such a Golden Goose no one can talk about it no one can touch it Donald Trump was elected for three reasons one to fix uh our economic woses uh the inflation that's killed people uh get energy moving again seal the southern border and create peace and stability around the globe if we perform and I'm I'm going to change that because that's not really my attitude when we perform you start to build credibility with the American public then and only then can

you start talking about because nobody believes us right right so in in the media plays games they try to pit us against each other with these different ideas the key is you have to honor the promises that have been made to Americans since Social Security was created and then you have to look forward and again we've said we're not going to touch Social Security uh Medicare and Medicaid that was the president who said that I got that but there are some uh efficiency things reforms that you can do around these programs that actually will make them uh not only more uh uh viable financially but more efficient should Americans be able to trade cryptocurrency freely

without regulations or do you think those regulations are in place for a good reason well you're you're talking so you remember Animal House with the evil and the good on the shoulders I I had that last night and the evil one and well I got the libertarian and the uh Republican with a small r on either one libertarian always wins for me but yeah well and it it used to for me but I realized that I was a republican with a small R when I was doing a radio show with an anarchist for several months and all he ever said was shut her down she's pumping mud and it's like oh I must be a republican I the libertarian says absolutely okay I the Republican with a

small r i I think the key is going to be we have the the greatest Financial system markets here in the United States in the world all we have an existing Legacy two-tier banking system uh it needs to come into the 21st century the beauty of crypto to me is not just that it's crypto one it's going to help us if Congress does its job if we put some parameters up Market structure you know give people rules of the road so they know what they can and can't do and who's going to be uh having responsibility for oversight we can protect the existing two-tier Legacy system yeah and allow it time to move into the 21st century I think the the

key is and this is why the central Bankers are so worried this is so disruptive and potentially destructive that they're scared to death it's not just losing their power they're they're afraid that uh this decentralization is going to somehow send Finance back to the uh I suppose there are also a concern that consumers maybe who are not super sophisticated or new to it might lose their money and yesterday Trump launched a $30 billion yeah coin uh which we refer to on the internet as a coin or a meme coin are you troubled by him doing something like that was that a wise decision on his part I don't know time will tell about that he seems to make some pretty good decisions they've

uh they've done you got work on the regulations for that so if he can do that can we all just do it and take any you could have done it too oh well it was a the SEC previously would have um actually gone after you for um taking money from retail investors ding dong the witch is dead now we're going to be moving forward with a new SEC got it okay so YOLO What's that YOLO YOLO you only live once just go for it my uh my staff gives me a hard time because I don't know all those cute quips yeah but you're you're cool with it you're cool with him doing a coin 24 hours before I have no problem did you see the mem that said Baron apparently had his dad's phone last

night made a billion dollar I love the baron memes they're my favorite they call him the Lian alib which if you like if you watch Dune is like he's the Savior that's sent in Dune to basically save all of us it's definitely going to be an interesting four years uh let's talk about right now Jason is about to implode Congressman what you're seeing is him melting down has a big like negative bias against um these coins no no no I have a bias against stealing meanwhile you want every ret you want every retail investor to have access to buy startups and because that that'll benefit you but when it comes to coins you're like oh no one should be able to do that no I'll

address that I think there should be a sophisticated investor test where people learn about things like diversification they learn who owns 80% of the coins that just been dumped on retail and under what circumstance they can sell them and you know there is a a legitimate issue here that uh foreign adversaries could just buy these coins that influence the president I think that's a real concern that people should have so you can diminish it you're it it's actually a real issue I actually agree with you like Securities regulations require and when you do an IPO you file an S1 and you disclose who owns the shares yes and it has to go on a regulated exchange so you know who the

buyers of the shares are so I do actually think your framework is pretty reasonable that it I thought you were just mocking me well I do mock you yeah in addition let's go to the next one then no no I do think that's right you brought up the Border uh Steve Bannon says huh I did you did you said the Border was one of the M re in his uh mandate yeah so let's talk about that part of the Mandate that you brought up uh Steve Bon says he's doing a great job today's moderator you're doing I think he's the only one that s they knock you down and then they build you up it's all good I'm not paying attention to them I'm paying attention to you this is called management Steve Bannon said he

wants all 15 out day one so what's going on uh Steve Miller says America is for Americans and Americans only do you believe 15 million people should be dragged out of this country day one like Steve Bannon and Steve Miller I I think we should look at what the American people think so a New York Times of all Outlets had a poll that said uh it's like 80% I believe that criminals terrorists uh people who have committed uh bad offenses should be the hell out of here yeah easy one to have consensus on you no but then it starts to drop down yeah which is uh the next one is a uh oh I forget what the second one is it drops down about 60 but 55% of

Americans believe any illegal immigrant should be out of here how many 55% 55% this in a New York po W what do you think that'll do to the economy you brought up inflation and we have to tame that we have 4% unemployment the lowest of our lifetimes can I just tell you agricultural um labor costs have climbed by probably 3x in the last four or five years yeah it's and there's not enough labor to address kind of agricultural production needs in this country particularly in specialty crops it's the world I I work in how are we going to kind of address both the kind of economy economic demand for labor in this country and address this kind of immigration challenge you don't fix your

labor problem with h illegal immigration uh you fix it by fixing your immigration system and making sure that it's working the way it's supposed to by the way I come from the state of Minnesota the two primary drivers of our state's private economy are manufacturing an EG I mean I I've got huge uh operations of families that have bound together as a co-op that they literally have to bring in foreign workers and they they' built a Village housing they have teachers but there's there's the solution this idea and I come from Minnesota which is why you made the hair on the back of my neck stand up the the argument is oh illegals

people who are here illegally and their Advocates are bracing for Trump's arrival and then they write an article that says if they remove all these people our economy is going to tank stop it you you you've got laws for a reason you got to enforce the laws that are on the books and if they don't work this is why we passed the strongest border bill in 20 years with 222 members in the last Congress which Chuck Schumer never looked at they they wanted to say that Trump killed the bipartisan bill you realize the house bill did five things finish the wall reform the parole process reform Asylum uh end Catch and Release and restore remain in Mexico

those were the five pillars that so-called bipartisan Bill actually codified catch and release said that if you don't have emergency Authority on the border until you have 5,000 plus one coming across a day so we seem to have the answer we seem to have you know pretty solid consensus here and in the country criminals who are basically committing two crimes whatever crime they committed here and coming cross the border illegally they have no standing they go but you seem to be um punting and not answering the question of should the 14.5 milon other people dragged out of the country in year one so maybe you can answer that one J's a journalist I I'm telling you right now that Trump

trump was elected to get this what do you think though you are from a state where that's going to be highly unpopular I I don't think you should be here if you're illegal so all for all 15 million got to go in year one I don't think you should be here if you're illegal now you're you're painting with a pretty broad brush you don't know what specific using Steve Bannon and Steve Miller have said so I'm just quoting their words again I think the the goal is to make sure Poss JD Vance JD Vance came on our show and he said hey you got to do the first thing first and you know then the second thing second and the third it's not all going

to happen on day one but yeah it's GNA be well I'm trying to interpret that but you're being straight so well actually I resent that I am being straight I will tell you Adar no I just want to know if that this is I think there's a lot of Americans who want to know if 15 million people are literally going to be dragged out this is a big question for the American people are you going to drag 15 million people out the country or not because Stephen Miller who seems to be you know a big part of this Administration and C Bannon who was the architect of the previous administration say that's actually going to happen people are actually nervous about that

this is when we need sacks here to check you to fact check you on whether those guys have said that and the the problem is you're using terms like dragged them out no I mean they're going to start with the worst of the worst in JD's uh answer you start with those because you know that this is going to have an emotional aspect to it and guess what yeah if you start doing it the way you're supposed to do it I'm going to suggest to you that a lot of them are going to leave voluntarily and then if we fix the system that we have then we can start to restore this by the way that's already happening because I've heard from a lot of agricultural leaders they're seeing labor depart the country

right now in anticipation of the administrative change and a lot of Labor is very scared of what's Happening they don't want to be caught they just came here for work these are individuals who came to this country to work they employed whether legally or illegally to do work that's in demand in this country and they're worried they're going to go to jail so they're leaving and there's a massive outl right now particularly in rural areas there's a massive out right now of Labor that's really critical to a lot of those farming economies and that a lot of people in the agricultural sector are very nervous about what's

about to happen in the impact but let me ask you another question do you think and in align with elon's point of view and some of the stuff that's been promoted that there's a big Push by the Democrats to keep the borders open to create more voting Democrats in this country that that's a big reason or rationale for the alternative of you know having illegal immigration then converting everyone to Legal I think I I think it's more basic than that I do think there's a political element to it states like Minnesota where the uh where the traditional educated I what entrepreneur yeah is leaving they're being replaced with uh in many

cases with illegals yeah right because we are a sanctuary state right so they come into Minnesota whether they vote or not that there is a big there is a big argument that yes many of them are but I think the bigger issue is how Congress is uh divided up you're losing you're hollowing out whether you're Illinois or you're New York you're hollowing out your state they bring illegals in and Incredibly our census calculates them in the uh numbers that doesn't make sense no so you got these blue states that mandering cartel just to try to how does yeah I guess that's a longer conversation and we probably need to wrap up in a minute I never how that works have a totally different question

something more fun the job of whip was totally romanticized after House of C that Ro you got to kill people well no because you had you had spy you had spy in this really famous scene you got an interesting the Whip and saying when I was Whi my job was to whip the votes and then he was screaming into the phone whip the votes and I just remember this thinking now that seems like a really cool job his nickname is Chairman dictator just so you know he was voted like number one commentator by Xing pan Chinese Communist Party in the first year of podcast I have a lot of important people that look up to me yes yeah uh but but just the job of whip is it as enjoyable as it sounds so

everybody likes to say to me you got the worst job in Washington DC I think the speaker has the worst job in Washington D that guy can be having a great day and he's got all kinds of people that are just throwing sandwiches at them all the time the majority leader uh does a calendar manages the floor works with the chairs uh great job the whip you don't get to do anything those guys want to do unless we can actually get it across the floor and the world has changed I you know they I think well I know they elected me because they thought my personality is very direct I am from uh Minnesota I get the sense that you're incredibly effective or you could whip the votes well but it's you

just got to be honest and you got to respect everybody and and it's a different world because we probably have 40% of our members who will vote for whatever Mike Johnson says we're going to put on the floor okay but we got 60% and this is what's been changing I think over the last couple of decades it keeps getting larger they didn't come here to follow somebody they came here to to lead to represent their people and they need to be involved in the process and and what I tell them all the time I don't care if you like each other I don't care if you despise one another I don't care if you socialize together or the second you walk out of here you run

to two polar opposite places when you're here the American people elected Donald Trump and we have the benefit of uh a majority see you're opening the votes but that's what it is and I I tell them you got to get over yourself we're going to let everybody participate in the process we're going to take all of your ideas we put the uh the more Centrist part of our our majority and the more uh rightwing part of our party together and that that list of uh savings Cuts offsets I was talking about we privately run that through small groups one at a time so that they can talk to each other right so that if if you come from a ruby

red District down south and I come from a you know swingy swingy District in New York York we can have a conversation about why I can and can't do something and why you will and won't do something and at the end of the day this is how you're successful everybody wants to be involved it's it's hard only from the aspect that you you can't afford to leave anyone last question uh when you saw the last week was pretty prolific in terms of the Senate confirmation hearings that started um I think we're still waiting to figure out when Bobby is going to come up like do you see any push back who do you think who might not

make it who might not make it I think everybody's making it I I think anybody uh that listens to you guys or anything that interview where they start saying bringing this up we got to remind people this has been the left's Playbook since Robert Bourg yeah they started it with Robert bour they took him out of his Supreme Court appointment they uh they did it to Clarence Thomas they really did it to Kavanagh and look at this now they've moved it to Cabinet picks right and and Pete Heth is a great example none of us is perfect but all of that was Anonymous and I think once it started going through the process and somebody asked me this question a few weeks ago I said yeah they're starting

with Pete Pete's going to get uh he's going to get through the process they'll move on to Tulsi then they'll move on to Bobby Kennedy Jr right those will probably be their their three biggest ones that they'll attack yeah right I mean my my perspective on this is that to your point in the absence of somebody being compromised it's not an IDE iCal difference that should stop cabinet picks on either side whoever is the President should get to pick their team put the team on the field that's the Mandate he was given by the people and then the people should get to vote it up it's supposed to be an advisory capacity right I mean the yeah Congressional it is but the beauty of what Donald Trump

is doing you can't fix what's broken with people that broke it he's going outside of this godforsaken place and bringing people in that have have completely new ideas whether you like them or not right come on folks let's see what this does we've been doing the same thing now for years which by the way is what happened 250 years ago when this okay wait Congressman last question okay this is the last question Congress last us give us the red an opinion you said you listened to the Fire episode that we did but just general from the outside in as a Minnesotan looking at California just diagnose what's going on there it's it's more complicated than

the right and the left want to make it seem but uh there definitely is a problem it's not just limited to California it's across this country with not man in our resources the way we should we had this problem in northern Minnesota probably 20 years ago 25 years ago we had a blow down in the bwca The Boundary Waters canoe area you had all those trees uh laying down they were kindling right and I think our governor at the time Jesse Ventura said he was going to go in there and he was going to log it right so we could protect the uh citizens in their property and we could actually make use of these uh trees that

have been destroyed in the storm uh the federal government told him he couldn't do it and of course we've had fires right uh California this is tragic my brother-in-law sent me a picture he lives in Woodland Hills he sent me a picture of flames at the end of his culde-sac above the that's where my parents live they probably live a couple blocks from each other in Woodland Hills two the fire sto two blocks from their house yeah that's the picture he took they might live did the winds just take no so the uh the the the Ventura County Line comes up to right there yeah and the fire department did and I I calfire and fire department are incredible they stopped it from entering the

neighborhood that's amazing it was amazing yeah very I don't know how his house is still standing based on the picture you sent Tom this has been amazing you fit right in here appreciate the honesty and candidness and we'd love to have you back anytime I appreciate the conflict I love that well I mean the American people have this is why we love job he got he got motivated we went to a Spotify dinner last night and they were talking about journalism he's like I'm a journalist I'll show you guys I can Journal I think it's a really important conversation and you know the one thing I'm a little concerned with is um just some clarity because Trump has an

ability to say things in a in a in a bold way in an effervescent way and then you know sometimes these things actually affect people and they want a little more clarity so well and the whip has uh has to find Clarity amongst 219 people yeah good luck with that job appreciate it thank you thank you you guys are fine thanks okay everybody welcome back to the all-in podcast we're here for the inauguration of Donald Trump in his second term and we're delighted to have Eric swell with us today uh he is obviously the house representative from California and the Democratic party uh you guys East Bay East Bay East Bay East Bay yeah uh you guys got shellacked this

time around wasn't great wasn't good yeah um what are the lessons that the Democratic party can take from this I'll will uh insert myself into this a little bit I'm a moderate who's voted Democrat two out of three times I was absolutely really disappointed I I'll just leave it at that that you didn't have a speedrun primary that Biden was put up when he was clearly in cognitive decline and I'm absolutely disgusted by the Democratic party's um hatred of successful entrepreneurs in this country you've kind of lost me as somebody who voted two out of three times why has the Democratic party left me somebody who you know two out of three times would

vote Democrat and now you hate as a party entrepreneurship winning and you you you seem to hate democracy and you won't even have a primary Jesus Christ um don't hate democracy um no but this is my perception I think a lot of Democrats feel this way we just lose you lost a lot of fol folks like a lot of I mean this this is across the board there's a lot of middle of the road folks that just yeah we we need a story that connects with everyday Americans I think when you look at a lot of the policies that we like believe in and you look at polling and focus groups

people will be like oh yeah I like that I like that I like that but our story right now I don't think we know who we are and who we're fighting for now so it is to me exciting that we can go through this reset and renovation to find that story that connects I'm a bluecollar kid I was raised by a cop and a mom who had six different jobs I was the first of my family to go to college I like to think you were raised by two Republicans yeah I was they they they were they are were and are two Republicans and I've got three little brothers who are cops and I grew up in Dublin California everyone called it scrubin until we invested uh

there and we saw success what was your ideological change growing up in a republican household of cops essentially yeah uh to becoming a you know you're a bit of a democratic poster boy well that's that's only because I've gone after Donald Trump but if you look I ran against the most liberal member of Congress Pete Stark um I have been a pretty independent vote in Congress and I root for success of entrepreneurs and business and want to connect that success to the people who work hard at those businesses so everyone does well and I think if we're just perceived as rooting against success overall and vilifying by people who are successful um then no one can be successful if if

that's the case did you like or not like did you agree with Biden's framing as he was leaving about this Tech oligarchy it it it's only an oligarchy if working class folks don't benefit from it so if that's what it becomes then that that's a problem what I want to see and I think what you all are rooting for is that anyone if you work hard work your ass off you should do better for yourself and dream bigger for your kids and I think we have an opportunity to do that the president the president-elect has an opportunity to make that happen and where he tries to do that he'll find uh a partner in me but do we have this uh branding issue

yes no I think that's what is The Branding issue let un the The Branding issue the wokeism is it the judgmentalism is it the sanctimony is pandering is it the you have to you have to be perfect and pure is what the perception is right now but nobody's perfect no no no that's the of people who like like we're all ridd with errors and of course we're not perfect and pure but I think the perception is that to be a Democrat you have to check all these Purity boxes and then you can be a part of the party and right now the Republican part is like I think the exact opposite it's like do you like Donald Trump great come to the

party and so even like if you don't like Trump can we get you on these three policies and you can still come to Peter T's party I have never been more courted by political party than trumps and I have never been more hated than I've been by the Democratic party that's wrong it shouldn't make people feel that way Jam feels that way I think he was a major donor you guys are talking about having you guys are saying you should have a Joe Rogan equivalent you had Joe Rogan he was a Democrat if you watch all his shows they were all he had Bernie Sanders on he wanted to have Hillary on you guys fumbled it you guys had Elon Musk you fumbled it well see the party

fumbled it maybe you can comment you represent and let's talk about rebuilding and we have we have an opportunity to rebuild now and so on for example the department of government efficiency like we should root for government to be more efficient and we should try and enable that but like if that effort goes into an area where it's going to cut Social Security or cut you know Medicare then I think you'll see us be Guardians against that but like most small businesses think it's pretty hard start a small business and then even once you do you don't have the resources that bigger businesses do and they see regulations as what gets in the way so

we should try and knock those what's happening in the party like what what are you guys doing or is it just headless as an organization yeah who runs a Democratic party I would say in in the house right now hakee Jeff uh has been pretty effective at at uniting us and and even in the last Congress uh you saw something that you've never seen before in any Congress in our country any parliament in the world which is the minority party delivered the majority votes on every vote of consequence so keeping the government open lifting the de ceiling which's which the incoming president now supports which we welcome that and we would love to get rid of it by the way um you know the funding of

even the funding you know to Israel that that moveed forward because uh Democrats were unified uh on that front so I think hakee has shown himself as like a practical negotiator someone who can work with Johnson but I think the the the other Fair commentary is he's young and he's inexperienced what I mean by leadership is yeah who who is the elder Statesman that can help push and cajo and influence the Democratic party to find a more solid ground I think one I think one of our best thought leaders is Mark cubin I think he's Mark cubin right Mark Cuban yeah he he's very influential has a lot of relationships with my colleagues uh myself he has business

experience but I think he's also not lost touch of like what regular people care about and I thought he was an effective surrogate uh for kamla uh being out there on the trail but I I go to mark on a lot of stuff and and I think he um understands where most people are how did Kamala get selected how did she get select so she was vice president and the runway was about 100 days and I we can go through the different scenarios I don't think any of them good and as you said if if your premise is that President Biden should not have run for re-election making that decision that close to the election you know I don't know if any candidate you know should there have been a speed

primary like j i we could go through a hundred scenarios there were a bunch of great candidates I I still think all of them would have probably been set up to fail did you it's too too short of a Runway did you in your interactions with the president did you say to yourself gosh what's going on here I I didn't and my colleagues and I I don't think we interacted with him you know that often and we kind of you know we started his presidency in Co and so the Joe Biden that I knew when I was in a baby you know child in the Congress in 2013 was very engaged and you know Lov meeting with Congress and the meetings would go an hour over the time allotted and it it

was kind of that Bill Clinton charm offensive that he could put on and I will just tell you like the first two years with the covid restrictions that we had we didn't see that because we you know we would have remote meetings with the White House and so um they hit him they hit him I I don't yeah again I don't know I I know I know where we are now the reports are he was gay c yeah yeah like I said I'm I'm man focus on the future let's talk about the future let's talk about Doge so you mention wait wait hold on hold on before we talk to Doge yeah yeah ER you were on the house intelligence committee yes let's talk about Tik Tok yes yeah okay done and dusted what what do you think might

back tomorrow right might might not yeah um you're you're in the room and these things happen there are these off the record I guess intelligence briefings that happened and um this was a n0 unanimous Supreme Court decision it was an overwhelming majority yeah in Congress can you just help us understand what needs to happen happen for something like those two events to happen yeah just be General you don't have to say specifically obviously and disclose anything that you know but we're just trying to understand how does something when it's such a ranker congress which can't seem to agree on anything or a supreme court which tends to be five4 on every issue finds a n0

and a super majority in Congress I can you just help us understand so the Supreme Court was not saying whether we should ban or not ban Tik Tok they were saying the Congress voted president signed corre and there's no way around this ban so they I think they were just following the law I voted against the ban I think China is the place where you ban things and the problems that I have with Tik Tok as a father of like three little kids are the problems that I have with meta and the problems that I have yeah it also so you don't view it you don't view it as a security risk for the United States and and and I Look to Jim heims who is the senior Democrat on the intelligence committee the ranking

member he's in What's called the gang of eight he has the most exquisite access to intelligence and Jim voted against the ban and I thought you know what if this guy is not seeing anything on the National Security level there was an off the Record or confidential briefing to the house intelligence committee so you think in that meeting there was nothing that was very meaningful that was disclosed about Tik Tok nothing that I had seen is it owned by the Chinese government absolutely but is there a national security risk I have not seen that hold on a second though I mean if the Chinese government owns a 100 million plus American phones their location data access to their

microphones access to their cameras how is that not a security risk and where I mean that seems incredibly naive to say that I want I want to build on what J is saying um we know that there are security vulnerabilities for example in WhatsApp it's riddled with stuff so you know you could send a PDF before then you could send an image now you can just send a message and you can root your phone the difference is WhatsApp is owned by an American citizen right I really and so what which is to say all these apps are compromised it's just that the Tik Tok is owned by a Chinese owner who is out of the reach of the United States government yeah and is that fair or unfair to you it is out of

the reach of the United States government but what I will say is most of what we buy as far as you know what's in our basket at Walmart is has a Chinese component what's in our Basket doesn't have a microphone or your GPS let me say a lot of it does have you seen a lot of stuff you buy um drones Chinese made drones there'ss there's a whole website now that that breaks down modern consumer electronics from China that actually have these hacking devices built into them I don't know if you've seen this but like you you'll buy like a USB charger that's like eight bucks on k or something and it's inside it's got like an IP address and it actually finds Wi-Fi it connects and it transmits

information this is incredibly dangerous like there's so many and I bought this like cheap drone for like Christmas someone uh for like anyway one of my little neews brought it and I'm like dude this thing is like 149 bucks and I looked it up online it's like got camera connects to your Wi-Fi and then it asked for access to your phone and I'm like I'm not doing that like I tweeted this a few months ago I don't think Tik tok's the issue the USBC charging cables exactly yeah be yeah rooted the charging cables yes this is this is more reason to B speculative no I don't but I don't think Tik Tok I guess my point is like we Tik Tok you

want to ban everything that's made in China that's great you'll destroy the economy yeah but one thing has 100 million people in an algorithm that could influence people's perception that you know the that Hamas is being harassed by the Israelis like they they literally can change how Americans especially young ones perceive the world even if they're not doing it currently do you not see how obvious it is that they can use it it's a censorship point of view which is government has a ro contr let's get his yeah I guess I'm the only one of the four of us that doesn't want to ban speech um yeah I'm no I'm with you with you I want I want to B I want either reciprocity where we can put

our apps in China or I want it gone now you're now you're making a different case now you're saying it's like reciprocity as opposed to controlling first you were saying it's security then you're saying it's like controlling our point of view now you're saying reciprocity you're like those aren't the same thing here security security risk likely lies everywhere on security on controlling the point of view of stuff I think you guys have to separate look Tik Tok there are three things in Tik Tok okay there's the content and the content creators that's one thing then there is a network effect and then there is the vessel which is the app okay which is the code my very specific point of view

is the content creators and the network effect can easily be replicated in other places The Vessel itself is corrupt and I think if you can't technically see that it's probably because you just you're not steeped enough in the techn the intelligence committee doesn't technically see that so clearly they're not agre they've been caught they've seen tracking got a guy the intelligence committee here tell well but I I also looked at the small business owners who use that as a platform I understand how you just the buckets that you just cre people depend on it and more people in the what I was telling the White House was more people watch President Biden's

State of the Union Address on Tik Tok than anywhere else and the and President Biden had just gone on Tik Tok right before this is the content and the network my point is across meta or across X my preference would be X you can replicate the network effect and you can create a mechanism for those content creators who are already on those platforms anyway to shift my point is the vessel itself is easily rooted I I I told this to president Trump when we were sitting down I was like that phone the microphone on that iPhone can get turned on remotely you can choose what state actor wants to do it but I will bet you to Donuts it is

inconceivable to me that the NSA did not find that capability and the reason is not because Tik Tok is bad or good the reason is all of these apps are rooted the only difference is that most of these apps are controlled by American citizens gives us control mechanism and this app is not yeah I I mean I think Donald Trump is going to allow Tik Tok well he got 50 million donation from Jeff Yas that and I think he also recogniz I think super pack 50 million yes and I think the reason he cares is because he knows a lot of his followers are on there and for whatever reason they didn't CH they have not chosen you what else is very popular exported from China fentol yeah

we should probably ban that too like I mean the fact that it's popular should not be why we are doing that's why I think you're framing WR popular Jason what I'm saying is you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube and and so you're take you're going to take away a platform that is on by Americans the weak chosen to go to those other ones and I just don't think we ban things in America I I think yeah but this is the Chinese Communist Party Jason if you if you actually they spy on their own citizens if you're just think about this for a second if your business depended on you using Tik Tok how would you feel about the Tik Tok and you're you're not wealthy you're not most important thing

you guys have to assume that if if it is true that the CCP uses the Chinese version of Tik Tok as a mechanism to surveil their own people the idea that for an extra few units of resources they wouldn't spy on the most important powerful nation in the world to me seems pretty illogical and dumb they are going to they would do it and separately it's not to say that President Trump is using uh Tik Tok per se or you know important people but it is true that when you have enough people use an app and those people come into contact with other people like look what happens today how

do you exchange contact information with an iPhone you touch one another there's NFC capability C from Ian just think naive assum that like technology is very deterministic there are so many good things that happen but there are people that are paid to find every single edge and to push it because the stakes are high and I just think that this is an assumption that we have to live with I'm just very cautious when it comes to bands that's that's fair that's an ideological thing and I age with you CU Cham where this goes is you're like well I don't want to import Korean cars because they've got electronics that are connected to the internet in every Korean car now the Koreans can spy on

where we are I mean you can very quickly see how this can open up a Floodgate Of Banning because foreign adversaries could take advantage of us including including B including Banning chip Imports including Banning router Imports you could very quickly make this a whole happen with routers literally the number my is literally already with equipment we're going to go down a very nasty place like we're going down an intelligent route which is to not give access to all of the personal information of the Sons and Daughters of Representatives of military experts to the Chinese Communist party there there

is a reason why Huawei is banned in America yes yeah security vulnerabilities were found they don't have our best all of a sudden you think that it stopped there China to like gave up and said okay I'm saying there's a different let's go watch the dance videos now it's great let the Americans Dance by way it do a little C isn't the US Revenue Tik Tok for bite dance like 5% if it wasn't important the Chinese government they would have divested I think it's a 30 or they give up their golden Shar us is 30 or 40 let's move on to the Border um yeah wait wait Doge we're gonna do Doge okay let's do Doge because you tell us your point of view

on Elon VI coming in what they're going to do what's good about it what you really don't think is good about it you have concerns yeah well so I do think it's funny that a committee about efficiency has two people running it that's but I think it it just cut itself in half with if vex's running you know for governor so that is their first success um I guess you know to cut you know the size of the committee but they got a lot of people that they've recruited I got it yeah as they said knock yourself out if you want to make it easier for small businesses you know to start a business if you want to save you know money inal employ federal employees not showing up

to the office yeah look I my staff shows up um and and we benefit from people being in the office we show a lot of flexib ability uh for people who have family issues kind of on a case-by Case basis um and people with disabilities have more access to work but I I generally I see the benefits of having everybody at the office and we were one of the first offices to come back uh on the hill um you know during Co because I saw the benefit of that and if they can draw a a straight line between you know benefiting our constituents and people being in the office I'm I'm open-minded to that Eric tell us about um how you think this reconciliation Bill the

budget yeah um it's going to be a very knockout drag out kind of a process um we're going to hit the debt ceiling yeah tomorrow yeah um and so you guys are going to be back to work right away what do you expect what I'm going to be asking my constituents you know is tax cuts are proposed and regulations you know potentially are cut is you know what did you get out of this and what have you lost because if it's just as I said if it's just kind of a a bro Archy that benefits and and you don't benefit then I won't support it but if you can draw the line and say you know this business getting this benefit or this corporate tax rate going down means that you know

you're going to do better and dream bigger I can be for that and and so that's what I'm going to be looking at do you think generally that governments should generally just have less tax receipts and be forced to spend less to be more ingenious and less over reliant on overpowering things with money yes and frankly a lot of that starts with the Department of Defense I mean look at where the cost drivers are government yeah I I think that but that means you need to have alliances in the world right you're going to have if you're going to reduce what you spend on defense you better strengthen your Partnerships some people on the Republican side so I think it's a

wonderful Point some people on the Republican side say this is why energy is so important for us because when we have resource Independence it actually allows us to forge and cast many of our relationships abro that then create a very different security envelope I so I share the the rare earth ex minerals caucus and for this reason and it probably surprises people that a Bay Area Democrat wants to get the US uh you know back into Mining and that's because we're getting our ass kicked by China on this uh on the um you know not just the mining but the processing and the magnetizing but we do have allies who have these resources so we can do it in

the United States there's Mountain Pass where they're doing it with almost 100% uh recycled water so you don't have the acid Pond issue but you also have countries that you could have I I I helped fun Jim to get that thing off the ground I've been out there and going it's an incredible thing but even he he will tell you doing these kinds of projects in America today is almost next to Impossible and the reason he was able to do it I mean he has support from folks like you which are for thinking but the reason was because it had already largely been built right and he said if he had tried to get it permitted

that's right uh and it's just a question you know less money for the government less regulation it it almost seems like sometimes if the Republicans say yay the Democrats say nay and if the Democrats said yay the Republicans would say nay but if you ask everybody privately everybody agrees the government should have less and to your point business people should just have more of a wide birth to actually go and work and then be held to account as I said if the wealth is only concentrated at the top make sure we can point to people at every part of the economic spect yes that's like but that's a very reasonable thing to say what you're saying well I I

I hope that's how we govern in this next but it doesn't come out that way well I think this is a key point that what you lead with and what you talk about and what you make a priority that will be people's perception of your focus right and the perception that I have as somebody who again has voted Democrat two out of three elections is that you're focused on and talking about things like Dei things like having trans kids get surgery and no parent agrees with this nobody agrees with this they're banning it around the world and you guys lead with that that shows a lack of prioritization that is palatable to the voting populace what they want is

effective leadership and when you look at what happened in Southern California it is the height of arrogance that they're working on things like Dei and saying this is important when the reservoir is not filled when they're not clearing brush and you have to make tradeoffs in the world and you guys don't seem to be able to communicate that it's incredibly frustrating for me you can hear it in my voice that you can say you know what we care about nature we care about the trees but you can't have trees on the floor around homes in a fire oh you said floor you didn't say ground so no I'm going to not listen to you or we can't get minerals that we're

going to be dependent on China for minerals right it we need those minerals we cannot be dependent on foreign adversaries to make important weapon systems to make important things like electric vehicles and you guys are concerned about the cranes and trans kids being able to get surgery that nobody wants that's the problem with the party we need a better story and I don't think stop focusing on those weird things don't leave that story with the concerns people have with Dei although I would argue now the new Dei is Don Eric and Ivanka and people probably won't like that approach to it uh either is that you floating the tri you're trying

to I'm not sure but okay we need a better story and I look forward to being that the first time work we Workshop it yeah yeah you're GNA have to Workshop that way yeah I mean listen there's a long tradition in these parties of the kids being grifters Hunter everybody's getting in on it um but let's let's close on the borders no no hold on before we do that I just want to ask you about um should the United States spend $200 billion doll to acquire Greenland from Denmark I don't give a if he tries to acquire Greenland I just want the cost of eggs to go down that's what my constituents are

promising knock yourself out go get green Minal right security aspect of course there's there there's benefits there but I I just I want to know you said you're going to lower the cost of eggs eggs are pretty expensive what like how are you going to do that and if you can tell me that you know spending $200 billion to get Greenland is going to help lower our cost great but I think people want to see costs come down I have a question about today I just want to actually go back in time uh today are there any of President Trump's nominees that uh really give you Aida and if so who and why and who's inspiring you mean give some credit if there's something

like inspiring yeah who do you like give give us one that inspires you and give us one I I think Rubio's GNA do a great job Secretary State I think he's he has the the gravitas and the experience uh to do it and I want I want to see that happen Kos Patel is the one that I I think could destroy the president's uh agenda because can you say more well what I see and I may be a little bit biased because the guy wrote a book he listed 100 enemies I'm not in that 100 I'm actually in the Preamble he starts it with of course Adam Schiff and Eric swell are the most dangerous people well you were part of the house Russia Russi investigation but I I do believe if if the president focuses on going after his

enemies he's going to lose the ability to bring order to the Border yep to get the most violent uh you know the most violent undocumented immigrants out of the country yeah and make people feel safe in communities where they don't feel safe what do you think about Jason's comment um do you think that we should systematically uh work through a process to deport 15 million illegal I I think you should focus on violent offenders sexual so let's say you get that done in six months what do you do after that uh well you also need order at the border right I mean and I I support surging resources to bring that but 40% of my constituents were born

outside the United States we are the eighth wealthiest District in the country no thanks to me I'm not contributing to that wealth there is a straight line between those immigrants and that wealth and so if we can find a way to address you know shortages in the workforce in agriculture Hospitality food and beverage of course we see it in biotech and Tech I think we can have the best in the world I just leave it leave you with this a foreign minister uh in Asia said to me in the past year he said Eric he said you know the population of the United States is 3 billion people and I looked at him and I said no you mean it's like 300 plus million I

thought he misspoke he said no he said there are three billion people in the world who would give up everything to come to the United States and he said if you get it right he said you can pick the best that's right absolutely recruitment as opposed to immigration is a better framework yes go go back please you mentioned this uh the house Russia investigation created a lot of yeah um talking points on both sides that I think are still lingering and in the spirit of sort of putting it to bed um any regrets about that whole process uh was there anything substantive that came out of It ultimately or was it the beginning of this more politically

directed kind of Action Reaction which is now why people are afraid about what happen s you know Russia had a preferred candidate and they did a lot to try and get that guy to win I think he could have and I think he may regret that in a lot of his trolling he made himself look guiltier when he probably could have shown us that the concerns we had weren't there but I I don't I'm not going to dwell on that I'm not going to you know focus on the fact that he was impeached twice and sent a mob that you know could have killed many of the people in the capital with me on January 6 I'm GNA focus on if he wants to bring order to the Border make our community safer and raise wages and lower costs

I'm going to work with what I meant what I meant more I think that's a ad yeah work backwards from yeah an outcome or do you think you and Adam actually just followed the facts and I was a alam County prosecutor uh in the same office Earl Warren you know worked in and we were trained that it's not about wins and losses it's just about doing Justice and I approached it just trying to follow the fact and when you were watching some of the other things that happened post all of this yeah like what's happening in New York and whatnot what were your thoughts for as a prosecutor on the legal veracity of some of the things that were going on to to Trump leading into this

election a lot of people around him went to jail and it felt like well if Michael Cohen went to jail like why the [ __ ] is this guy not being held to account like Michael Cohen went to jail for being a part of that hush money settlement so again just being a bluecollar kid who resents people who think that their position entitles them to be better than regular folks I just wanted everyone to be treated the same and and so that's the way I was raised my dad lost his job as a cop when he wouldn't essentially be get bribed when he wouldn't allow a bribe from a mayor um to influence him and and he well that's amazing T that

that was my ear experience in a small town in Iowa and he was the police chief the mayor very publicly tried to like corrupt him and he wouldn't do so my earliest memory is that he was willing to lose his job to do the right thing no but you're saying something very important which is everybody should be treated the same so correct if if one of your kids were charged with a misdemeanor would you hope that it was just prosecuted as a misdemeanor or do you think that folks that may not like Eric swall well figure out a way to now make it a felony the former yeah okay yeah I mean as I said I'm I'm going into this open mind what we can do no I'm I'm

just saying into this New Year open minded not focused on the past on what we can do to make the country succeed yeah and On the Border issue I think that's the one where you all could maybe get some consensus and some clarity because it really does seem to be creating an underlying tension in the country as to what's going to happen and you can't do anything on the workforce issues until the public believes youve secured the Border that's just a whether that's rational or not how much of that was why you think kamla lost was just her not taking ownership of the Border I just think she was attached to an incumbent party incumbent parties worldwide are just getting pounded and

there wasn't much that was going to change where this thing was going what's what's happening in California well give us give us the grade on G which Republican will be the next governor of California uh well they they don't have their [ __ ] together either by the way the Republican party in California um look I'm I I was in the palates on Monday um I have 10 friends who lost everything I was with a woman who stood on top of a pile of Ashes that was her house looking for any momento for her family and it it's it's awful and I I will also be open-minded as to what we could have done to prevent it to prevent it why resources that should have been

there weren't there and as a member of the homeland security committee uh make sure that you know we're better prepared next time and if there is accountability that should have that should come uh to be a part of that but like there's fires are still burning right now and so I don't want to be that Meme where it's like you know the guy that like last week I was a hostage expert this week I'm a wildfire expert us that's that's our function my my job is is to look at you know what we could have done who should be held accountable but with a fire still burning and familes you know living uh with friends and relatives right now um I I don't want to hop I

don't want to give this a hot take yet yeah fair enough fair enough thank you all right everybody uh Eric we really appreciate your candidness and good luck reing the party okay thanks awesome great job brother all right welcome back to the all-in podcast at the inauguration of Donald Trump our 47th president and we're really delighted to have friend of the Pod Rana back on the program he is the US Representative for California's 17th District AKA our hometown Silicon Valley how are you Ro honored to be back on you made it big time huh You're Now like in these inauguration Jason's a republican now did you know that no I remain a moderate

Jason I'm holding on to you as the Democrat and Silicon Valley I'm a I'm I've always been a moderate I like to vote for what I believe is the most qualified person and this time around I was a they call in your business a double hater and let's let's get right into that with the Democratic party uh you guys got shellacked um the candidate who you put up didn't go through a primary the previous candidate seemed to be incognitive decline we can all agree and it feels like a bit of a mess in the party what is going to happen to the Democratic party going forward is there a voice saying this is the plan or is it a little Game of Thrones right now we're

all wondering where are the Democrats it feels like you went dark and is that a strategy to just sort of let Trump have his moment and then come back and be adversarial or you know State a new platform what's going on inside the democra party and think crises are times for reform and renewal and the reality is that this was a huge blow to the establishment of the party uh people wanted a more competitive process they want new voices they want a new generation of leadership uh and now that's going to emerge and so you're seeing it happening in California with Dan lurry uh winning in San Francisco for mayir Matt Mayan winning in uh San Jose you're seeing new people in

Congress emerging new Governors emerging and so I think that there's going to be a lot of reflection one of the things I've said is the Democrats need to spend as much time understanding why many Americans voted for Donald Trump as we do criticizing Donald Trump and uh I think you're starting to see that happen what do you think the new platform will be if you had to think of you know things to remove from the platform and things to prioritize in the platform if you were in charge or Jean Phillips friend of the pot as well um there's some people who who feel you know there's more important issues than the ones that maybe you've been focused on

that you the Democratic party has been focused on for this last election cycle so maybe give us two or three ideas of what you would add to the agenda and two or three things that you might say hey this isn't a priority for Americans anymore I think the whole thing has to be about prioritizing the economy the economic independence of Americans how are we going to have economic renewal economic growth uh in a stagnant working in middle class and then let's argue our different Visions Donald Trump says that the way he's going to turn around Johnstown and Youngstown and down river Michigan is just with uh a large tax cuts and deregulation our view has got to be that it has to involve technology

leaders Business Leaders but also strategic government Investments to be able to build new industry there to be able to credential new folks there to be able to build a Workforce but we have to offer a compelling economic vision and then an economic Vision so people aren't dependent on uh the denials of Private health insurance and so that they have child care but I think whoever wins the argument that there's going to lead America in the 21st century on the economy uh and on economic independence is going to win Ro do you you you're saying government investment in building new businesses building new Industries is necessary to achieve that vision and

that's a better alternative what is the historical kind of examples where um policies where government was going to go start new Investments start fundamentally supporting new businesses being built that's worked successfully and work better than free markets like the the the the Republican argument is the free market is more efficient the free market works better let capital and capitalists find where the capital is best applied it'll be more efficiently utilized versus government making the decision about where Capital should go it's typically lower Roi very often negative Roi and doesn't actually create aable

economic growth I think ask me government investment that's Market sustainable but you look at Hamilton you look at Lincoln and you look at FDR that is in my view what Built America infrastructure uh well it's infrastructure but it's also manufacturing I mean I have a build to build new steel plants in Johnstown in Ohio now you need the private sector you need Cleveland Cliffs you need a a private Steel company but if we're going to finance that the scaling of that uh the federal government has to have some role uh and what we ended up having in free market uh economics is China last week one trillion dollar Trade Surplus now we are at almost a trillion dollar

trade deficit yep you know the economics well so that's financed with a capital account Surplus that means all that money is coming into to Wall Street wall Street's doing really well the finance sector is doing really well but it's hollowed out our manufacturing base it's hollowed out our industrial base that is free market economics gone too far that's globalization is what some of the non- neocon Republicans would say is that global trade versus cut off some of the global trade create a tariff program with China and will reignite manufacturing that's kind of a a counter policy argument but to your point it's a

different point of view that uses different set of data to make the case and I I'd agree with some of the Strategic terrorist I just don't think that's going to be enough for us to have pill factories here have uh the steel factories aluminum factories to to Revitalize these areas and to look at what is the invest you think we need government programs I think we need government partnering with the private sector and on DG so you know do you feel and does the party feel that there should be no deregulatory effort in the United States to unleash kind of you know economic investment and growth or like this this whole point just you know it just feels wrong to me to say like we

don't want DG like shouldn't DG be a thing that we're always cutting back things bureaucracy bureaucratic red tape that we've created to unleash I mean even Gavin H's making this claim now in California with respect to the rebuilding I I think you need Effective Government I think execution matters and I think there's Fair criticisms to say that the execution of the chips and science act which I helped WR or the IRA wasn't enough I mean the money didn't get out fast enough the the bureaucracy in permitting uh was uh was slow and if there are ways to make government procurement more competitive that is good I mean why is it that five primes

are dominating uh the defense procurement system so Michael Bloomberg had a plan which I think seems pretty reasonable have 15% of Department of Defense spending for startups and Innovative uh technology as opposed to just going for the five primes that's regulatory reform but we also have to look at the fundamental why is Intel not succeeding we asked PT Ginger who was uh asked to leave in Intel uh and I said is it was it the permitting reform and he said no it's that the the the capital expenditures to make wall Street's numbers uh were was very high and there was no no procurement Apple everything's

too expensive in this country by the way this goes back to nuclear energy it's too expensive to build a gigawatt of nuclear power in this country it's too takes too long meanwhile China can do it for about a tenth of the price and they're scaling up 300 XR rate in terms of new energy production and they can do it in half the time half the time a tenth of the cost and there's a regulatory path for Gen 4 reactors going up in China versus here I'm for nuclear energy for smart modular nuclear energy I'm for looking at how we uh build nuclear energy here in the United States in a safe way but in one that I agree that our part my party has been opposed

to largely so this is really important because I think what happens is the Republicans order Democrats will come forward with a general policy statement we need to DG to unleash economic Prosperity or DG to unleash nuclear but the the other party then says well we've got to figure out a way to attack them on that vector and then they take this like diametrically opposed point of view to try and diminish the strength that they're gaining because of their strong policy perspective that may be good for America and then we end up in this unfortunate circumstance where we can't ever align on the things that really are good for America that's how I feel as an

American looking at how the the parties attack each other one party says this is a good thing for America why doesn't the other party say you're absolutely right we all agree on that let's move forward can you can you give the win on Doge like government efficiency seems like consensus well I've gotten criticized because I put out an innocent tweet and have said that uh if musk and ramaswami have a good idea then I want to look at that and you know musk disrupted the entire pentagon with SpaceX I mean he worked with Ash Carter to do that the track record's there the track record is there so if he's going to and you have

all of the progressives like me saying the defense budget is bloated 56% of spending we need to figure out how to have more competition we need to look at the waste that is there I mean spending $150,000 on soap dispensers and so now if musk is it's really is Boeing $150,000 60 Minutes $1,00 for breast pumps I mean I think it's outrageous yeah and so now because musk is saying let's look at the defense department you don't want to do it even though you've been saying to do that for the past five six years that's the stuff that drives people crazy or I Flo in uh

you know that Bob Iger would be a a good person to run next time for for mayor of of La he's considering it well I mean did he tell you that when you talking yeah I don't want to to talk about what he what we've talked about privately I just think he'd be you did ask him I did ask him I I I and so now I'm getting uh attacked for well am I for an oligarch that's that's literally my my Twitter stream B's an oligarch you look at Disney I said I want someone who's going to rebuild this this place he it would actually be a public service for him after I want popcorn and lemonade stands on every corner in La FDR FDR went FDR was one of the

wealthiest people John F Kennedy so I think there's got to be a there's got to be common sense yeah how do we actually help people that has to be the the metric and willingness to to to work across the A on things yeah it it does seem in the wake of what's happened in Southern California Pacific Palisades and all the other regions uh that were impacted that a large number of affluent um and and voters and people who are AC in politics are now saying it's kind of enough the progressivism went too far left we need really qualified people in office and so what do you think's going to happen in California and what impact do you think these 12,000 14,000 homes being

destroyed and of course the 25 people who lost their lives tragically what impact is that going to have is you think that's a turning point in some ways I do I I mean first of all it's just horrific and I'm sure you know people CP friends who lost lost their homes they're alive and that's what's important but they did lose everything they lost everything and I mean a place has just burned down it's it's it's devastating and I think it's just a culmination in California of something that's been creeping up which is governance matters execution matters yes keeping places safe matters making sure that we're pragmatic matters and that's why you saw Dan Lorry win that's why you

saw Matt Mayhan win that's why you've seen uh sort of reason able people in District Attorneys when I think that's and you're going to see that in La I think you're going to see that in the governor's race I I do think California is saying regardless of your ideology on issues we need to be able to govern well so you have the economy um I think safety's up there for folks uh what else do you think on that short list of things that the party in California could say to the voters in terms of winning them back and letting them understand you're focused on something other than in their perception Dei maybe environmental overreach I can't believe

I'm saying that but like the fact that people don't believe in clearing the forest around homes and they're fighting it on environmental grounds well I mean it doesn't take a rocket science to understand rocket scientist to understand that these wildfires have been occurring for a long time you got the salt in of science here who can go into the science of it and that if you want to live live near a forest in a fire zone you kind of got to clean up the detrius on the forest floor like it feels like we you know the the the leadership in California is kind of pressing company excluded kind of lost the script here huh I think it's reasonable to ask why the brush wasn't

cleared outside La I got in trouble for asking that I said these are legitimate questions that's not going after people and I supported Karen bass in disclos full disclosure against Rich Caruso I was PRI to do it but if Caruso asked reasonable questions the whole point of being in governance is you say okay the guy had a good point you're disappointed in her performance the fact that she's out of the country going back in time would you vote would you have endorsed Caruso knowing what you know now I I don't know if I would have endorsed him but I I I I certainly think it's fair to say that people are disappointed in what's what's happening I'd Endo someone like Iger or others I think there's I

certainly think there needs to be a a new mayor do you think there was any reason for her to be in Ghana but she said she said says that she went on uh the presid the inauguration of the president the inauguration I I she was in a palace having cocktails yeah whether if there were actual warnings before I think she would probably say she should she even be going to Ghana as the mayor of a city that has no economic vacation I suppose no well that no look that's a common thing where the president of both parties ask people Mayors Governors I haven't been asked as the congressman yet to to represent them at a at a forign inauguration is that yeah that's

a common thing and I don't if there weren't the warnings I don't think that's a big big issue or know she's going to Paris because you know the uh La is hosting the Olympics the question is though your first priority and if there were warnings if she should explain why why why why she didn't go and I I like her I think she's a good person but the question is uh what is it going to take going forward but the big point about one of the points about what what we need to do differently other than the economics is we've got to also go around the country and say my party is not going to look down on people who we have different uh cultural or social

viewpoints with I think there was this sense of condescension and that if you disagree with someone somehow our party is morally Superior and that's got to stop and this whole thing about if we disagree the policy generally is wrong which is I think disting distinguishing the policy from the party um do you think California has a chance of electing a republican governor in 26 do you think that that chance is now greater than 50% after the wildfires I still think and I will uh support most likely the Democrat I mean whoever the good a good Democrat is there are a lot of good Democrats uh that can run but you know I mean AR schweger was a Republican and can a

republican who is a pro-choice and take some of the social issues off the table be competitive yeah I think the Democratic party would be naive uh to take that for granted and we need to have thoughtful strong people on our side run and run understanding people care about Public Safety they want Effective Government they want uh reform I mean people like Matt Mayhan uh who now have had a couple years and have been effective uh are are the type of Democrats I think that can win Statewide what are your thoughts on um Tik Tock uh going dark in the last 24 hours here it's terrible i've been I've been vocal we had 1.3 million people sign a

petition never had that in ERS of magnitude saying keep uh Tik Tock uh because they like the product or they make a living on it it's yeah it's first of all it's the the stories about people who make a living I there was one person a content creator her husband cheated on her abusive marriage she leaves she's got four kids uh two toddlers uh and two people around two kids around five and she's broke she's in a hotel uh she's staying in her best friend's uh living room for 4 months and then she starts telling her story and now she's making 60 770,000 as a content creator I could tell you 50 stories like this of people

are actually relying on this for their livelihood some people are making it making using it to make rent and then you have the issue of free speech and uh just being able to express it now people say what about China well why don't you pass a broad uh broader law that says any interference by a foreign government in algorithms is going to be illegal and criminal Well India banned these apps and we're not India they're prettyy Savvy though I mean these things are an attack Vector you can remotely control these phones they were caught spying on journalists and uh they could shape public policy so and they've had years to divest seems to me that the Chinese

government sees this as a strategic military asset do you disagree with that I do I one I think the United States has a much much more robust tradition of free speech than in than in India and and so I think our consider are are different I also think we have far more capability in making sure that we protect our data uh and protect any foreign interference in algorithms now president Trump has floated this idea that uh you have 50% us ownership my understanding is 60% of the investors already are are us investors uh I will work with him and Mike Waltz I know very well we were co-chair of the India caucus together in Congress I will work with them in a bipartisan way to figure

out how do we have this app operational if the Chinese government spies on their own people why wouldn't they spy on their adversary the American people well certainly they would but the question is are they uh can we protect the American people from that happening on this app we can uh as long as we have two clear laws one that the data stays here by the way a lot of the data that's going to CH the China communist party is through data Brokers there's no law against that so pass a law that all data of Americans if it goes to in the hands which by the way there's us companies that are selling that that data there's us

companies that are buying that data any third party can access that data if they want to buy it in one of the markets that stuff exists it's existed for a very long time yeah and and the irony of it is going back to the trade deficit China's got a the same week China announces one trillion dollar Trade Surplus they're building more drones than us more ships than us more steel than us uh we're talking about banning this Tik Tock app electricity yeah know what about the concept of reciprocity would you be uh in favor of requiring that we have our social networks in China if they want to have theirs here I would be in favor of us pushing for our

social media networks to be there just because of Free Speech but I would not allow the Chinese Communist party to be controlling any social media app or having any influence whether it's on Tik Tok or whether it's on uh any other app I don't want to name another app because I don't want to malign other apps uh uh incorrectly but they pass a law that says it's a criminal offense if an executive this country is found collaborating or overseeing any app that has any influence in the algorithms by the Chinese Communist party or if our data goes to the in the hands of the Chinese Communist party you could you could have a law while still keeping Tik

Tock operational yeah you litigate the outcome you don't litigate the method I I don't trust China as much as your gentleman do um talk about Jason it's not about trusting China and you keep trying to characterize it as like people being pro China if they're Pro free speech or they're Pro giving people the only platform you can you're making you continue to make assumptions about security when there are security issues with a lot of apps and security issues with a lot of phones they don't have the same scale as Tik Tok this great the scale of Tik Tok is extraordinary I'll tell you where we got the politics wrong I I mean so Donald Trump comes in there

and he says you know what the Chinese took your jobs they took your steel jobs they took your auto jobs and we're going to have tariffs and by the way this Tik Tock thing pretty popular app for young people we're going to keep it what do what what do we do we do the exact opposite we are running ads we don't want tariffs so we're telling all these folks in the midwest that we're opposed to the policies that could save some of their jobs and then we're telling all these young people that we want to ban Tik Tok and fair they didn't take the jobs we gave them to them at some point I think we've got it one of the things the Democrats need to do is stop listening to the foreign policy blob and

the Beltway exe you know uh pundits who got fancy titles and fancy think tanks every time we get these letters 500 groups 200 groups I said who are these groups these are 200 groups with 130 people it's like every person as three groups and we're listening to them as opposed to I just popped up five groups while we're speaking here you know and I and I think part of what Trump was doing I mean I I and I obviously totally oppose him I voted for his impeachment twice but it was sort of like in the in our world AB testing or fast uh iterations he' put out ideas he' get feedback he iterates it may not call it that but he's just kind of gauging where people

let's talk about one of those ideas Americans want the border secure there's no doubt about that the statistics just show it 80% Americans want it kind of shut down and be orderly and legal maybe even more um but this idea that we're going to drag 15 million people out of the country word drag because he continues to no I'm just quoting Steve Bannon and uh Stephen Miller who work uh one of them worked in the first Administration and architect is first win and the other one is the most powerful person inside the administration this time so I'm just quoting people they say day one 15 million are going so do you think that's actually going to happen and do you

think it should happen it shouldn't happen whether it's actually going to happen or not I don't know is the answer whether they're going to try what do you think should happen I think you should have people who are convicted first of all we need a secure border uh we need to encourage people to come here through the legal process like my parents did or like so many you say encourage do you say encourage or require require but but but to do that we've got to have reform to make that more possible because right now that's a a a a very hard thing to do uh and it wasn't as hard by the way when my father came and the 1960s studied engineering had a green card within

months of of of graduating so how do we do that but of course uh require people to come through the legal process uh and secure the Border I don't deny that there's been the but and then for those who are criminals here who are convicted convicted of crimes fine Deport people we all agree on that those all seem logical and and obvious but but in terms of so let me tell you someone in my district without telling her name and you you tell me what what should happen with this person she's a she's been in the country she's undocumented she came to to to see me with a a group of people uh she's a dental hygienist uh her daughter is going to med school she

undocumented she's undocumented do you consider yourself to be her representative she's not a citizen of the United States she doesn't have a legal right to vote are you representing that undocumented non-american person I am supposed to represent everyone in the district that lives there regardless of their citizenry I I my my citizenship I don't we don't ask in terms of their citizenship in terms of just being a representative of the area if everyone no I won't but as a congress member you believe that you should represent non-americans that happen to be iled in your region in your District I don't think I don't think that I need to

represent their political views but if they're being abused in terms of the process in some way and they came to us within the law uh we would figure out how they got due process now would have empathy and sympathy for the person living in your District even if they weren't legal is what you're saying I think it's quite reasonable if I may interpret yeah I mean that's that's a more eloquent way of putting it but let me just tell you about this this person so she's she her daughter is in uh med school in in Southern California she drives down once a month and drives back cuz she can't afford a hotel down there and the reason she can't afford a hotel is she's being underpaid as a dental

hygienist for 20 years now do you really think we need to deport her and what is that going to do to our daughter or do can we find a path sounds like a great potential American so well the the the um the alternative point of view someone would say I'll play the The Advocate the devil's advocate here they would say but there is another American who is qualified to be a dental hygienist who cannot get a job who would be getting paid more because they are a citizen and they are legal and documented this person is undercharging their employer and they are taking a job away from American that's what the counterargument

would be from some people so there are two things one I agree that if there's someone who is in a position that is undocumented or even on an H1B and they are being underpaid that's wrong that's why we need reform so that people are being paid appropriately and aren't being employers aren't abusing the process to drive down Market wages but the argument that they're taking American jobs misses a central point and that is when you have a immigrant as a worker yes you're increasing the labor Supply and the supp if you increase Supply that drives down price or wages but you're also increasing demand because they're spending a lot of money on things and most I've always viewed

this to be more of a demand part of the equation for growing the US population is you can actually increase the economic growth so let's put a number on this you know so clearly you don't believe these people should be dragged out of the country correct I think we're in agreement on that some people are not magga 1.0 do you believe they should be dragged out it's a long uh let's I don't want to put you on this F no no it's it's not that simple um and I'm really hung over today so I'm not going to be super articulate about it um what about that Dental High J who's been here for 20 years would you give her amnesty I

would seems like a great American working hard a ly being empathetic I think for me would always be a priority that person should not lose their job lose their life that's a very hard circumstance at the same time there are a lot of Americans who feel they are getting underpaid that they don't have jobs and there's empathy that I think is part of the alternative side of that equation so I would you know let me let me ask this question whenever we talk about immigration we never have a number put on it and we never have a point we don't have a point based system here so it devolves into this discussion we're

having right here which is oh they they stole our jobs and wages are down in the face of the lowest unemployment of our lifetime uh 4% and seven eight million jobs out there there's two jobs for every person who's unemployed if you do that basic math now of course there's some disparity in people having the skills to take certain jobs and and geography putting all that aside we have 340 million Americans would a would an easy situation here be to say we will import People based on the need in the country so if we don't have enough people working in healthcare we're going to open up um and if unemployment's under 10% we'll have three million

people coming a year we'll have two million people coming a year and just put a number on it and then have Americans and our Representatives debate that number why don't you guys do this well I say two things I think my view of why we have lost jobs and stagnation has been the offshoring of so much of our industry and the hollowing out of towns and communities where we just watched as wealth piled up in districts like ours not because we people in our district stole the wealth from Youngstown or down river it's just that the wealth was piling up industry was being offshored and there was kind of indifference towards it and if we want real solutions we need to have economic revitalization

instead of blaming the dental hygienist in my district like that's not why uh you know Johnstown or war in Ohio are suffering they the broader point though is that we have a number on uh green cards and uh legal immigrants around 1.4 million a year uh and then we should de how do we uh where which categories do you want to increase it why uh and how do you get people out of these status where they're being underpaid I do think that's what's hurting is this is whether you're on an H1 and you're there for years and you're being underpaid uh or whether you're undocumented and being underpaid that's hurts the American worker far more than when that's such an important Point people don't understand

this about the h-1bs is they are transferable but you have 30 days which makes essentially as it was explained to me when I was in the it business these are indentured servants and they don't have choice and they have this you know threat that they're constantly under if you don't do what we say as an employer and you don't accept the salary you're going to be out of the country exactly and you're going to have to take your family with you would an easier solution to be to just charge 10% of the salary into a pool as a tax so people don't abuse it the salaries go up have a minimum salary and give them maybe a year to find another job what do you think of that I I think that type of a

solution is reasonable and have them be paid well I mean this idea that they're being abused you know put a floor or have it be the prioritized based on the the highest wages because that's a reflective of uh talent coming in uh but you know you don't want a situation like now where you're on a H1 for three years then you get it extended uh because you apply for a green card to six years and then while your green card application is in process it keeps getting extended so these folks are here 10 12 years and and and and the abuse of it and and my view is you know I think the American people are pretty decent and fair I grew up in Bucks County Pennsylvania It was

95 98% white it was a few indian-american families and I grew up with a belief that you could do anything in America look at you and and you know the country trusted me to represent a district with1 trillion of value of the most economically prosperous Place perhaps in the history of humanity Pro perhaps right and I I I just think that that is America and people are upset at the extremes they're upset at the abuses they're upset that there wasn't a process at the border but deep down this country has always been one that Embraces uh immigration and most IM almost most immigrants tend to be very patriotic so when you hear Stephen

Miller say America is for Americans and American only you think that flies in the face of the spirit of this country I say what does he mean by Americans I you know what I want to do I'd love to have lunch with them actually you know maybe have him on all be great yeah you want to join for that if we I'd love to and you know we should all instead of just reading every tweet you know read Lincoln's I heard he's a guy that if you sit down with him and have a long form conversation you get a lot more than what the the short form media uh bites have been about him so I'd actually be really yeah no I would love to have M because I watch his entire speech and

the way he speaks seems incredibly xenophobic and a bit racist to me so what I would I would argue what I would ask him about is is is without being too uh uh pedantic about history is Lincoln has the speech in 1858 uh on Independence Day and the challenge for Lincoln is to say how is a German American or French americanamerican because back then to be American you literally had to trace one great-grandparent who fought the Revolutionary War how could you be American if no one in your family fought the Revolutionary War and Lincoln has This brilliant formulation that he says you're flesh of the Flesh Blood of the

blood uh of the founders if you believe in the Constitution if you believe in the Declaration of Independence and so I'd say to Stephen do you do you still believe that what how are you define okay if you don't too right I mean we could have that discussion in America if we're pulling the ladder up now and we're not a land of immigrants but I agree with you I'm an immigrant I think the immigrants are the most patriotic that's why I believe in because you free everything with well I mean you should because You' done great things and look what you're going to do for here from sou you know South Africa when I was six years old and I'm hanging out in Washington DC with a congressman and how

many jobs have you created the president and the vice president I get to meet all these people and hang out with them and you've created thousands of jobs and you're going to create billions of extra calories with these amazing Ohana strawberries ohal is the name I think I think my company might actually be in your District you cover Santa Cruz County uh no that's Jimmy Panetta I see okay all right well no favor sorry let me ask you a question um do you think the United States should spend $200 billion to acquire Greenland from Denmark Denmark has $150 billion um uh debt they could build a public pension plan they could here's

what are we trying to solve F first of all I'm a a person that believes that we need to respect the self-determination of other countries that's what makes us different than Britain that makes us different than Rome the America you know might even though we intervene in foreign elections and use military force to overturn foreign governments well nobody's perfect there you go there you go I gotta get this guy he's got my talk you know if you ever if you ever need a hype man or a campaign manager let's go when you do your when you do your run for governor yeah exactly by the way this show has been brought to you not only by row but also Roman go to get Roman row we got to wrap up you got

to go no no hold on I want to hear the Greenland green no but but the question is why what interest does Greenland have they have critical minerals they have uh a lot of uh important resources and basically they want to partner economically with us they're letting us invest they're letting us develop it so what what what what do we gain so you're saying we could achieve our objective without without it becoming a Terr what about Puerto Ric by way do you really want here's here's my cautionary tale I think this could be the dispositive argument every time Bernie Sanders ran you know what he talked about the politics of Denmark you only want

Greenland as state we're gonna get to Denmark they call it getting to Denmark GRE is gonna that's gonna that those two senators are going to be Democratic senators watch the interviews that have come out on Twitter from the people that live in Greenland they're sick of the Socialist you know kind of overseers I think they do want to have a different way of governing I don't know I'm gonna have more kids if I get two years of fraternity it sounds pretty amazing yeah but it is I mean look I I don't think that you're necessarily getting that but there's aboutto Ric it's an important question is like does um does the United States need territorial Dominion to achieve its strategic objectives I'm

open I'm openminded what about Puerto Rico well I there it too like look every Democrat is like oh we want Porto R why because you're going to get two Democratic senators in Cong people but my view is it should be a Puerto Rico self a referendum 8 90% want to do it you'd be down yes if they want to join the United States because that's a different thing there there we you know we basically took that as a territory now let's see what they want to do I'm all for it let's go straight to 60 states are you are you running for governor of California no are you why not you done such a great job you you're a no not you WR I I I I think I I think

there's a I I love being in Congress I love representing Valley and I have been focused on how do we get uh innovation technology partnering with communities to to have economic rev if you were asked would you consider but didn't I see a rumor this week that someone said something that you were am I wrong I think someone may have floated a rumor I'm trying to get out asked by your party and the citizens of California would you consider would you consider it is that's just a consider I consider anything you know there you go all right he consider your campaign manager my my I need I mean he's good well I got some he's got his moments I'll give him that that's a wrap from the 47th

inauguration of the United States and we'll see you next time byebye